My redpill / bluepill experiences and thoughts

roe_ · 2013-05-11T13:09:22+00:00

Quick advice: stop going to clubs. You're probably only going to meet shallow people. Start going to meetups based on some common interest, do some volunteer work, etc. etc.

You are going to have to maintain an alpha/beta balance no matter what. Fact of life. Suggest you have fun with the alpha, eg. try to see how many times you can get her to punch you in the arm and call you an asshole/jerk and giggle in a day. Then surprise her with a back message - balance FTW! (My SO has an almost pavlovian response below the waist to my massages)

There's a thing where girls ping-pong between aloof assholes and beta niceguys - they get hurt by the alpha but are unexcited by the beta. Men who can execute the balance are hard to find in a blue pill world.

Lastly, here my theory about red pill cynicism: the red pill as a short term mating strategy is a good filter for assuring you only ever meet/hook up with people with unrestricted sociosexuality - and such women are simply not going to receptive to much beta, nor are they good relationship material (in the aggregate). So, stop filtering for that. It sounds like a woman with more restrictive sociosexuality would be a better match for you.

HTH

redpillschool · 2013-05-11T13:34:07+00:00

Stop expecting women to be men.

Hear me out on this- you lose respect for her because of how she responds to your assholeness. Any dude who did that would be a complete idiot, and you wouldn't respect him.

But women aren't men. They don't "earn" respect like men do. Women acting like a women should be your baseline right now. She responded to your game. Good. That means she's normal.

Now you can forge your relationship with her. But do not be angry that she is a woman.

reddit_names · 2013-05-11T14:07:10+00:00

Red pill knowledge knocks women off their pedestal, and newbies have a hard time with that. You think you can't be attracted to them without it. Understand that the pedestal was only in your mind and never existed in the first place. Now you have to deal with women in reality, and the reality is that women are attracted to strong men, and there is no point in faulting them for it.

It’s a common problem for new guys, but it's something you can fix. Part of the reason newbies resent the pill is the weaknesses that it exposes within themselves that they know they need to change. You want to keep your beta self because you like to lean on women emotionally and take comfort in their love, etc. Maybe you want a mom to a certain extent, a lot of betas do. The problem with this is that feminine women don't want to be a mom or even a co-dependent. They want to lean on you (you big strong man) for emotional support and love, not the other way around. If you can't provide these things, they will lose respect for you and resent you for it, eventually leaving you for someone who can. You never said why your last 3 relationships failed, there might be some clues there.

Imagine lying with your woman in bed after sex or just watching tv. What position are you in? Is she faced towards you with her arm around you and her head on your chest? OR, are you hugging her with your head on her chest? A variation? The first position is the one that is the natural position for the man being dominant and the woman being submissive. Anything else signals your submission or co-dependency so that's a red flag for you.

In order to know where the line is that you can go beta without losing her attraction is something that is learned over time after already having established your dominance in the relationship. Before you work on that though, I would advise that you shift your thinking from trying to find a women who loves the bluepill you (hint: she doesn't exist), to really analyzing why you're so attached to that part of you.

RedditBlueit · 2013-05-11T13:21:10+00:00

Athol Kay's Married Man Sex Life - works for long term relationships as well. You don't have to be Super Alpha all the time, if you choose your partner carefully. You'll need just enough alpha to maintain frame, and a partner who gets the dopamine reward that being partnered brings some people.

ImNewHere4 · 2013-05-11T12:48:30+00:00

I totaly agree with this statement. Especially the third paragraph. I can do both but who wants a person who is that shallow and is receptive to such d bag behaviour

Dizzeee · 2013-05-11T14:59:02+00:00

Red pill is not asshole game. I would look internally as you attract what you project.

Kepaso · 2013-05-11T15:59:01+00:00

1- forget the bars and party animals. They seek adventures, adrenaline rush and attention. They will go out with the alpha of the place.

2-Shy, low energy girls, with a good family background. You ll always have to game, but it can be watered.

3 if you can do it, a shy south american, east european or asian girl!

http://boldanddetermined.com/2012/11/29/how-to-meet-shy-girls/

shy girls will often have far fewer sexual partners than outgoing girls

shy girls are typically modest and ladylike

shy girls are not overly opinionated, rude, loud-mouthed or foul-mouthed

shy girls are easier to get along with because they are more eager to please

shy girls will bring out the protective instinct in you

shy girls will let you hunt them. You are the hunter and they are the prey. a shy girl will not typically make the first move, or any moves, it is up to you.

shy girls tend to be more loyal, down to earth and pleasant

shy girls are girlish, rather than “mature, independent and experienced”

shy girls do not want to compete with you to see who can be more masculine

shy girls do not typically have high career ambitions and are happier being around family

shy girls are not typically party animals

ysef95 · 2013-05-11T13:51:37+00:00

I think redpill works because of the sexual phsychology of the majority of women and i think there is a lot more to "game" than just being an asshole version of yourself. As others have said its a balance betwwen push and pull which gives good results.

I dont think you need to act bluepill to be in a relationship or play "the nice guy" you just have to understand that if you want a relationship then you are working against nature and youre gonna have to condition yourself out of the need to sleep with other women just as the woman is going to have to condition herself out of hypoergamy etc.

Jrstoneart · 2013-05-11T16:58:37+00:00

"If this is what you want, you're bellow me" I guess is my mindset.

Newsflash, ALL of them are below you. And I'm not saying this in a sexist way, I'm saying that all women will respond better to the dick than they will the nice guy. It's just a fact of life you have to expect, but I think there is a way you can still be a decent person and still retain your Red Pill air of mystery/playfulness. You don't have to go completely Blue Pill and buy her drinks, lavish her with affection and so on. That stuff will come in time, but only when she deserves it... Doesn't that sound better than just giving her everything she wants at the start before you've gotten anything out of it?

2013-05-11T17:21:13+00:00

Given your attitude I imagine clubs are an extreme waste of your time and money. Use your reasourcs elsewhere. You will get better results and more enjoyment.

socal83 · 2013-05-11T18:27:55+00:00

yeah bro i totally understand

i like making money but i hate working

is there a job where i can not really do any work but still make money?

2013-05-11T19:47:17+00:00

Nobody wakes up and says "Man im so fucking alpha, ALL DAY!"¹

People exist and slide on the spectrum as they need. For example, when my wife pleases me, i exhibit beta tendencies. When she starts to displease me, i display alpha tendencies.

Just be yourself. The thing that classifies someone as redpill/bluepill isnt a series of acts or attitude, but understanding what women really want/mean/say and being able to filter the bullshit out and make your own decisions independent of their perceived wants.

¹ Edit: Tomorrow, im gonna try that. Just wake up and scream "IM SO FUCKING ALPHA, ALL DAY!"

GuitarHero07 · 2013-06-02T00:15:26+00:00

The fact that you're "getting tired" of being Alpha means you haven't completely internalized the principles. That's quite common and it's going to take time.

I don't think you've seen how deep the rabbit hole really goes. There are times when I think I'm pretty Alpha and then I get a rude awakening to remind me that I still have some Beta tendencies.

You have to understand that you've essentially been fed the Blue Pill your entire life. You're not going to undo a lifetime of conditioning quickly....it will take time.

You really do go through 6 stages with the Red Pill. You're not at the Acceptance phase yet. If I had to guess, you're still at Bargaining.

StriderCid · 2013-05-11T13:09:39+00:00

I'm the same way...

reddit_names · 2013-05-11T16:41:11+00:00

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Title	My redpill / bluepill experiences and thoughts
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Date	May 11, 2013 9:54 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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