I have to agree

DangZagnut · 2018-11-17T01:35:12+00:00

It makes complete sense. Women want all privileges and zero responsibility. It's the feminist message until the end of time.

ifight_themoonlight · 2018-11-17T01:23:18+00:00

"The fact that it is not my choice"

maybe one day women will be able to get abortions legally.

consios88 · 2018-11-17T02:24:55+00:00

Women so oppressed, but society lets them get away with so much shit and makes men pay. Even if they go on welfare the bill does not get split in half. The man has to pay back the welfare with interest. The game is so messed up so many dudes dont realize they are a walking credit card that she doesnt have to pay back.

BottleCap-SnackTrap · 2018-11-17T02:02:57+00:00

How is it her body, if the baby comes from genetic material from the father? If they're being semantic about what's what: biologically, some of the father's DNA is in the cell and then that cell divides to make the baby. The food that then is eaten by the lady that makes the baby grow is usually also bought with the father's money.

Zombocom1911 · 2018-11-17T06:36:51+00:00

asks to be treated as equals, still try to frame men for 18-21 years of child support?

how is it our financial responbility if you 1. didn't take birth control 2. didn't take the morning after pill 3. didn't have an abortion?

being equals means being responsible for your choices

billyballoonhead · 2018-11-17T01:16:05+00:00

It comes back to the point that her biological reproductive system is 0% my moral responsibility while still being 100% my financial responsibility.

Pick one.

ziggmuff · 2018-11-17T03:13:38+00:00

Jennifer Lawrence is one dumb bitch, and, shockingly not that remarkable of an actor.

SomeChiGuy11 · 2018-11-17T03:46:15+00:00

The lady below is a true feminist. It’s about freedom to make choices and being responsible for them. Not man-shaming and throwing around the concept of equity.

silive · 2018-11-17T02:25:19+00:00

Well, it's because they can't have their legs closed while we're supposed to keep it in our pants. That's called the female "equality", my friends. And their shared daddy-husband (aka "The State") will make sure it's enforced. P.S. And that's exactly why I'm against abortions now: no fucking way I'm going to support their "freedom of choice" when they're so much against mine. Hell, they're even trying to ban the sex DOLLS for fuck's sake!!

roscoedangle · 2018-11-17T01:59:22+00:00

That's why I am waaaaay behind on child support. I don't get to see or talk to him, he lives in another state his mother said she'd never bring him where I moved because the money was better, and there is actually work here. Fucking bummer. I started writing a journal for him in the event we actually meet someday. Thanks for reading this, I like this page.

AlwaysResist · 2018-11-17T03:23:53+00:00

Women want the good and try to avoid the bad by any means possible!! Even if it contradicts there own statements and ideology!!

robowriter · 2018-11-17T05:46:18+00:00

Feminist lawyer, Miss Chicago 1955, got it right.

Jennifer Lawerence in a couple of years she'll be a has-been metooing her non-existent virtue and making frequent trips to Dubai as a party girl for high cash payouts. If not already, she appears busy with the ad campaign called fappening.

801735 · 2018-11-17T02:16:42+00:00

"Karen, who hurt ~~you~~us!!!! REEEEEEEEE"

Watcher2 · 2018-11-17T02:37:37+00:00

THIS! Why is this point of view never even a part of the abortion conversation?

fightin2staypositive · 2018-11-17T02:54:30+00:00

For the first time, don't shut the fuck up, Karen.

123sdf · 2018-11-17T03:24:25+00:00

The shitty part about being an adult is you shouldn't be able to kill the baby even if it's an unwanted pregnancy... We talk SO much about personal responsibility here, yet men would rather murder a baby than deal with the results of their actions (not using a condom, sleeping around, not having the wife on birth control etc.). "Bringing the baby to term" is a euphemism for "letting the baby live." Both women are wrong.

I'm not some invader of this sub btw. I've been accused of that multiple times when I share an unpopular opinion. Perhaps there's some hiveminding going on here too...

Roastie_haiku_bot · 2018-11-17T03:58:08+00:00

A woman that makes sense? Rare indeed.

htowntrav · 2018-11-17T05:35:14+00:00

Isn’t this where trp comes in handy and you learn to play the game and get your personalized desires materialized? You know not all the blame falls on one party over the next. Like don’t stick your dick in crazy. Yada yada yada...

jaggu444 · 2018-11-17T03:33:44+00:00

She looks like an alien, very creepy.

Blogginginvicecity · 2018-11-17T03:41:40+00:00

ALL choice and NO responsibility?

It's "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bux" personified.

DopeHammahead · 2018-11-17T04:25:13+00:00

Did you choose to give her your sperm or did she rip it from your body? We all know semen makes babies. It’s 2018 and there are plenty of choices should you not want to dump a load in a bitch

EffinWhiteMale · 2018-11-17T05:11:11+00:00

Checkmate

InformalCriticism · 2018-11-17T05:43:13+00:00

This has been one of my own arguments in local politics, but lawnakers have insisted there's no way to write it up as a 14th Amendment initiative.

throwaway_ftb · 2018-11-17T05:45:00+00:00

upvote to infinity. men should be allowed to sleep around without legal consequences like women.

shetoldmeto80 · 2018-11-17T10:18:49+00:00

I've come to realize that women from a few generations back are generally more lucid...

manifesto18 · 2018-11-17T12:46:52+00:00

Thank God for hookers

raja-ulat · 2018-11-17T17:44:20+00:00

As someone who has studied biology, I can understand the concept of males being viewed as more expendable than females due to the understandable perception of females being the valued bearer of offspring while males are mere dispensers of male seed. However, one would do well to remember that fertilizing a female's egg(s) is not necessarily the end of raising the next generation of offspring.

For example, is a human baby the same as the babies of a fish, a lizard or a spider? The answer would be obviously no. After all, human babies need a lot of love are care to grow up into well-adjusted adults. Most female fishes, lizards and spiders do not take care of their young after laying their eggs or after the eggs hatch. Granted, the males do not take care of them either but let's not forget that some female spiders and mantises eat the males after mating with them.

Another thing is that some non-human males do play a role in providing and caring for their offspring. For example, male seahorses carry the eggs until they hatch. Both the males and females of some birds produce crop milk, the bird equivalent to mammalian milk, to feed their offspring. Wolves, both males and females, work together to raise their pups. In the case of Tamarin Monkeys, it is the males which take care of the young most of the time while the females mainly provide milk for their young.

Therefore, as both a human being and a male, I find the idea that my only value is to be a mere sperm dispenser and expendable utility, with no place in raising and teaching my own offspring, rather insulting.

Anondreams · 2018-11-17T06:05:31+00:00

If you choose not to use birth control measures while having sex, that's also on you.

hkl8324 · 2018-11-17T07:04:13+00:00

My choice, not my liability. That is women.

themanmohr · 2018-11-17T15:04:55+00:00

I wouldn’t have a problem with child support if abortion were illegal because there both parties are responsible for their poor life choices but currently our laws are logically inconsistent

No1Buck · 2018-11-17T16:31:11+00:00

I would be much more likely to empathize with women on abortion rights if there was a single mainstream feminist organization that advocated for men's right to a financial abortion.

The-mad-Titan-Thanos · 2018-11-17T16:39:39+00:00

Something I never understood is how they take this my body my choice like.

Lady did anybody rape you or fooled you into having sex without a condom? In that case it's a crime and you're definitely entitled for child support. If not then you should snap your legs shut. It's funny how women want all the rights but never want to take responsibility too . Everywhere everytime it's always "He got me pregnant" "He made her pregnant". Fuck that. Why do they completely blame everything on men?

If you want my body my choice then I want my life and my money .

Fafenheir · 2018-11-17T23:13:13+00:00

It's because their bodies are weapons, which they do not want to disarm.

SovietGrazoBazoOkdek · 2018-11-17T03:36:31+00:00

Women deceive one another. That’s the problem those who ignored the warning deserve to be punished. It scars the child too. It realizing that it’s mother was a whore. The child is silenced by the mother.

BlackBoxInquiry · 2018-11-17T03:46:30+00:00

Absolutely funny. It’s spot on as well.

mgotzinger · 2018-11-17T04:08:04+00:00

Well she just got unattractive and ugly in my book

balancedben · 2018-11-17T05:17:07+00:00

It makes perfect sense and I'm pro abortion choice as well.

NeedHelpInHTX · 2018-11-17T05:52:10+00:00

*STANDING OVATION* WAY TO GO KAREN WHOOOOOOOOOOO YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Atton_Risk · 2018-11-17T07:34:20+00:00

Abortion on demand has nothing to do with bodily autonomy.

renegatta · 2018-11-17T08:02:34+00:00

Thank god i have no children.

zetsthamys · 2018-11-17T09:36:47+00:00

WILL SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN ! screams in alimony single mother

Fantoche_Dreemurr · 2018-11-17T13:07:56+00:00

"Usually"?

Women would never support the second view, pure and simple. The lure of a pregnancy trap is too strong and the payoff too huge for the woman.

voncloft · 2018-11-17T15:11:56+00:00

My wallet my choice

alphaautist · 2018-11-17T15:32:24+00:00

Gynocentrism in a nutshell /:

tandom443 · 2018-12-23T04:26:45+00:00

My one question here is this. Do you see that child as a direct consequence to irresponsible sexual habits? For BOTH parties? I feel that accountability for one's actions is something seriously lacking in many people. If you impregnate a woman and she suddenly feels a very natural attachment to the the child growing inside her; that is directly the fault of both him AND her. Grow up kids. You caused this to be. Take responsibility for your actions. We go our own way but sometimes that way is us putting our pecker where it don't belomg. You can't be expected to be a father if you don't BE A FATHER!

Futureman999 · 2018-11-17T05:21:45+00:00

It's my money and it should be my choice.

speeddopepope · 2018-11-17T02:06:53+00:00

If you found the decapitated heads of this planets 1000 richest feudal lords sitting on your front porch everyone would be able to fuck endlessly for the next billion years before worrying about the cost of children.

Iowa_Nate · 2018-11-17T07:17:18+00:00

I dunno guys..... part of me aagrees and part of me does not. I think if a man chooses to ejeculate into a woman then shouldn't he be held accountable for that choice? I do agree that it is totally 100% a womans choice to carry a baby to term. I mean of course its her body. The child is both of thiers cuz it couldn't get created with out sperm And a egg coming together . hmmm confusing.

here is what I really think: the woman may or may not choose to allow a penis inside her, then man may or not choose to ejeaaculate, the woman may choose to keep the baby, the man may choose to stick arround and support, it should be decided between the two of them. its a extremly personal decsion and there is no right or wrong

Title	I have to agree
Author	dds87
Upvotes	2000
Comments	118
Date	November 17, 2018 1:10 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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