Nihilism is hindering my progress.

ParalyticPoison · 2019-05-26T02:22:28+00:00

You have to find new meaning in your life, I had the same problem you are having right now. I personally set my new life goals as, working toward advancing AI, specifically in the love-doll industry, as well as somehow contributing directly to the creation and research of the artificial womb.

Everyday might not be working with these directly, but it gives me something to work toward and have a purpose to getting up every morning.

The valley of suicide is very deep, but in the end, you are the only one who can climb out of it.

Three-Legged-Fox · 2019-05-26T02:31:03+00:00

I went through that as well. Then eventually I decided to enjoy the ride. I asked myself what would make me happiest in life so now I’m pursuing that.

Chad_Thunderfist · 2019-05-26T04:18:36+00:00

In my opinion, this is the least talked about (but the most dangerous) phase from going to blue pill to mgtow.

I hit the same thing you did, and man, I came REAL CLOSE to suicide myself. If I may make the recommendation/realization I came to: it took some light therapy, some antidepressants, and a lot of thinking to realize that life isn't about the nihilism, but rather the enjoyment that you get from completing/doing something you enjoy.

Start small; find enjoyment in basic things, then evolve it to hobbies, then finally goals. In doing so, you may come to reise that life isn't as black and bleak as you may think. It's actually quite fun, tackling challenges and struggling against the tide of society :)

smokeythecat420 · 2019-05-26T02:38:38+00:00

First of all, i don't think what you're feeling is that unusual. Its a phase I'm going through right now myself.

Male sexual desire has been the driving force behind civilization. Its no surprise that its a big motivator for us. So if we take that away, we simply need to find a new way to motivate ourselves.

How often do you travel? Try a new hobby? Or simply get out and do something you've never done? As men we are wired to crave variety, both in women but also in other areas of life. Harness your instinctual desire for variety to better yourself or make some change in the world.

Learn a new language. Start a charity. You have the freedom to literally do anything.

Its not that things are hopeless, you just haven't (yet) figured out how to create hope in a new paradigm.

mgtowmonk1234 · 2019-05-26T04:04:38+00:00

Just choose some goals that appeal to you and go after them. It doesn’t matter either way, but it will give you something to focus on.

I’m trying to get better built, and I’m trying to get my pension in good order, whilst looking into small properties etc.

Nihilism isn’t apathy for me. It can be a very positive thing because it encourages me to just go for it and see what happens. Outcome independence if you like.

Everything will be fine my friend 🙂.

mgtowguy2 · 2019-05-26T02:20:46+00:00

Read The Stoics.

r/Stoicism is a good place to start.

Cades13 · 2019-05-26T03:08:35+00:00

Come take the honkpill, fren.

eduardkoopman · 2019-05-26T09:30:30+00:00

Are you physically healthy, eating healthy, and doing excersise?

Because I found biology often does the work of providing motivation, through hormones automatiscally. So with that hormonal driven motivations, one fools oneself mentally pretty automostically that it is actually important/matters. While on a large scal is means near nothing, but for you/the individual it feels important.
Ans well, the wish for a lasting/long-term purpose, is a thing humans have been prgrammed to care about while it needn't be cared about much imo.

mechgaige · 2019-05-26T07:35:58+00:00

GYOW actually means everything matters because it's about you. Improving yourself to be a better you and then projecting that around you. Clean your room, then clean the neighborhood park. Learn a skill and then teach others. Also, spend more time outdoors.

DT1726 · 2019-05-26T02:46:45+00:00

You don't need meanings or purposes, you need challenges. A meaning or a purpose is something definitive, a restriction of sort. By restricting and removing excessive parts that you have a well defined meaning or purpose.

If you continually make progresses, you will definitely outgrow your current restriction (life purpose, life meaning, you name it), that's why meaning or purpose is self-defeating to a man. Dopamine is what drives you, and it's released when you anticipate something, not when you obtain it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine

The anticipation of most types of rewards increases the level of dopamine in the brain

A challenge will keep you motivated to improve yourself, not a purpose. Challenges are the by products of purposes and meanings. Don't be mistaken between cause and effect.

Just pick something that you think is worth improving over and you will find your motivation in life. For a mountain climber a mountain to climb, for an artist a masterpiece to make, etc.

johnnydh85 · 2019-05-26T06:27:54+00:00

This is only my base of inflation. If the number 9 is the last number before it rolls to a 10 and resets that 9 to 0. Along with I flat on if I put 9 x ex amount of number months. If the bill ever maxes out at 9 I wont have to worry about this. 23.91 . So I would put 0.01 times 300 months. 3.00 . Now year two bull raises to 24. 35.. I didn't like this so I take 8 x 288 . We started with 300 months and now are 12 months later. 7.04 Now I dont ever have to worry about this very last digit area. Cause it's at 9. Further more it gives me the next 11 months at 4 cents each month to do something with . Until it raises

It's just an additional way to reduce outcome of your income. For instance.. I pay child support So instead of three I have 4 bank accounts. One for investing. One for my kids/ child support One for daily spending food and gas. And one for bliss . Now this last one I can make sub accounts. So first I got current on all Bill's. Then I saved 1000.00 If ya have debt cet rid of it So next I set aside one months of Bill's or more.
Or tried anyway .. I made a sub account for every single bill. And then put 0.09 cents in it. . Now I'm 33 birthday is in oct. So I subtracted 34 from age 100 . Left me 66 years . Then times that by 12. 792 months My phone bill is 50.00 a month . So I took 792 x0.09 . 71.28 . Now my phone bill is 49.91 out of my pay. Instead of 50.00 . Do basically I have 9 cents for every month to that bill. Do that with .90. Then do it by a dollar . It's a game for me basically . But I keep that checking account at 0.00 or 0.09 . A set amount is to allotment to that account. I get paid once a month . . So out of that I move all the money to thier respective accounts . . When the statement comes available I move one months pay to the checking . Anything over the statement amounts gets put into the respective accounts . When the bill is paid the account should be at 0.00 or 0.09 . Then I move next months set Bill's to the checking . And that sits there till the auto pay takes it out 31 days later. On the 29th day I get the deposit from the following checks and out it in there respective accounts . Anything left after the 32nd day goes to an account to round it to the number 9 or if I have 71.28 left over it'll go to my phone account.. and so I respect for month three So I get direct deposit on the 1st of 821. Minus 50. Hair minus 55 for phone minus 84 for water minus 32 for garbage minus 300 for electric . Rest goes into all accounts. My sub account labeled death goes up from 0.00 to 0.09. Then third month goes to 0.90 then 4th goes to 9.00 so on fourth month it should have 9.99 in it . . . Now my credit union that the Bill's are at are free checking is at 0.10% interest and dividen every quarter. However I switched it to e-checking and every account get 0.10% every quarter paid out above 999.99 to 9,999.99 . Now if I hurry and get the account to 1,200 . Let's say hair thats 2 years and a that I dont have to worry about that bill. That's 10.00 a week for a ml onth at 5 weeks. This gives me at least 2 quarters to draw interest off of. And I slowly add to it now i put the 71.28 so next will he 712.80 . After that I'll just keep adding anything under 712.80. Bow the goal for that account is only 6 more years for cap. My truck tabs are 101.00 a year that's 6666.00 currently at 6767.00 fully funded. So it has 101.09 in it for now. So 5.94 would put it at 9 cents a year . 59.40 in the same year would put it at .90 cents a year. Then I have the option to put 594.00 aside or 66.00 dollars aside this is 1 dollar a year. . So with that I'd stick 505 aside . Do the math from.it. then stick the 594.00 or less to make 9.99 a year . My target goal for fully funded is 6767.00 currently each year itll go down by 101.00 but also each year inflation is 3% . So even if I just did 106.94 I'm one year and .09 cents a year ahead. . Remember this works for me cause i draw interest off any account over 999.99 so the faster each account is 1,000 and over and held for 3 months i get money paid to me. It's not easy but it's part of the game. It's another look. Now all I have left is child support. My truck and bike and mortgage . I'm selling my house and paying my bike and truck off. At this point my Dshs child support is my only debt but it comes out monthly out of my once a month paycheck. So 0.09 goes to my kids account. Then 120 ml on the times 0.09 . When the mutluplication is near 1206 . I'll just shove a months worth in there. Then take 1.00 x remaining months. Once this is 6 months or more ahead or fully funded I can stop having it come out of my pay and out of that account only . This amount will go up two cause times cause of age brackets . I have two kids. Different ages. That is the reason for my 9 system. Now if you could do 50 plus 71.28 121.28 and move it into your account and even if ya only just did the 71.28 yes it be slower but itll slowly go from .09 to .18 to .27 . not sexy but for ke it efficient . Or you can just do

0.09

Then 0.90 Then 9.00 equals 9.99 Then 90 which would equal 99.99

Until you reach that fully funded bill. Whatever way works for you . . So of your bill goal is 6767. And you get 5,999.99 saves up you only need 1,000 left or less to set aside . And you'll never have to worry about that bill again

This last example is what I'll do of this one deosnr work . I get paid on e a month so I dont see a difference until 3 months later .

Either. Way those are two ways I'm doing it. Cause it gives me something to do. I went from 175,000 owing including monthly Bill's to 0.00 in 18 months this includes back child support. then... now I have 13,000 dollar bike and a 40,000 dollar truck and a 164,000 dollar home I owe on. So I wont finance anything again.

Ideally if you can get your paycheck . Your take home pay. To no outcome . Meaning Bill's coming out including gas. Food you can throw all that at a account. I have garbage may 1st and water and hair and phone set aside june 1st . July electric. Selling my house after that and using that as leverage .

Since I'll be fine in august and Sept. . My only Bill's will be mortgage out of that stack . So sell it by oct or November. This I can take two months pay and set aside my tabs for my truck Or 3 to 4 paychecks and pay off the bike. . Sorry it's so lengthy. . You asked I answered. It's not exciting m hit for the next 9 months I dont have a garbage bill. A water bill or a phone or hair cut bill after june 1st.

All my account are with credit unions and each credit union has 0.09 or more in savings and 0.09 in the checking. My bill account has 33 subs and have 0.09 in each or more.. do as ya wish but that gave me a goal . That and working out. I dont drink . I dont smoke . Just water and trying to eat healthy and exercise.

10 percent goes to investing . If your in debt get out of debt first . . 700 goes to food and gas and out of that 500 goes to gas in form of cash in a envelope a.d it's in 100.00 Bill's. That gives me 200 for food in my daily spending. If I have 50.00 left over next month I take 45 only out in cash. Then split that 50.00 in to. 25 to food and 25 to savings

Third account has .09x120 then .90 x 119 . And 0.01 cent into that savings this is my kids school lunches and child support account. I just started this one.

The last account gets all the money and divides up across the account. On the 5th nezt months set Bill's get moved to checking . And sit there. I don't use this account for nothing These bills are a fixed amount that slowly go up every year .so on 1st when the money is deposited. It is a set amount that is how I know to define it up. . These are not on auto pay . So I have to pay them . Anything left over 90 cent or 71.00 gets rolled to another sub account which lowers my outcome of the paycheck which is the income. Then by the 5th I make sure the next months Bill's are in there. And so far all my bill accounts are either one month ahead or 9 cents ahead that I have a credit to the account .

It took a long time . But again this works for me . And it keeps me engaged and focused.

jonathino001 · 2019-05-26T08:06:07+00:00

Have you ever looked at a motorcycle, or a video of someone doing extreme sports, or a regular sport, or a particular hobby, and thought to yourself "damn, wouldn't it be cool to do THAT... ahh, but it'd be too much money, and the girlfriend wouldn't approve, and this barrier, and that barrier" yada yada...

Well guess what? Those barriers? Gone. They're gone now. You don't have a "normal life" to uphold anymore. Going your own way is about more than just taking off the leash of women. It's about taking off all your other leashes too.

You can do all those things that you thought were too difficult to form-fit into your life before. And unless you are totally depressed, surely there's SOMETHING you're interested in.

Or alternatively you could just sit around and play video games or something, I mean that's ok too. Just because you're MGTOW doesn't mean you HAVE to pursue big goals. It's fine to just pursue whatever makes you happy in the moment, hell, that's more my style anyway.

IntelligentRetard99 · 2019-05-26T14:02:35+00:00

I want to think back to the times when you were young and had hobbies you thought were fun. What do you truly desire?

You are right that life is pointless, but its your job to make it valuable and worth living.

Eating a good meal, exercising and getting a fit, nice body, learning skills, learning new languages, watching movies/TV sometimes, just having a nice balance between work/fun/rest.

But whatever you do in life, do it because you are doing it for yourself and not to please others. Thats the most important thing. Find out what you like, what you dislike and follow that.

Instead of focusing on what a woman would want, start trying to impress the only person in your life that matters the most - yourself. And start being nice to yourself.

astuteglute · 2019-05-26T17:50:11+00:00

When I get bored chugging through my schedule I'll make time to go places and do things with stuff.

New fishing spot, find on GPS, hike, catch and cook. Different restaurant. Shop for gear. Organize gear in car. Check for investments and do the math on possible profits.

tw-1234a · 2019-05-27T20:17:37+00:00

Matters to who? Why does it matter that it matters to them?

I decided this matters stuff is part of the indoctrination that I must be valuable to: mother father wife kids company state country society. No reason why except it's always been that way.

So instead I pick who I am valuable to because I know why. Harder is learning when to stop.

JohnLucTyler · 2019-05-26T12:29:53+00:00

"nothing matters" This is not the worst thing. This is the best!!! Took me years to get it. You will get too.

johnnydh85 · 2019-05-26T03:13:09+00:00

New meaning Stack one bull back a month . Owe use it as like .0.09 cents times when ever till your a 100 years old. Then start working out. Then do that for each bill you know you'll keep in your life. Saved me for motivation

nothibro · 2019-05-26T03:26:15+00:00

take the jew pill

HierkommtdieSonne902 · 2019-05-26T05:33:20+00:00

Everything matters. You walk around being a depressed piece of shit all day? Well you just made worse the days of the two people that you statistically have an effect on daily.

You're going to affect an average of a thousand people in a year, and they once again are going to affect another thousand.

So it's safe to say, that if you act nihilisticly, you contribute to nihilising your society, and you wanna consider if that kind of society is really one you want to live in, one you want your friends, hell your family, if you have one, to live in.

I sure as hell hope that the answer to that is no and that you'll act accordingly.

No purpose in life without women? Stop fucking joking, they only make up 50% of society. If you want to do good and feel good about yourself join a club or group that woman aren't allowed/interested in and have a positive effect on the group. Be the one that helps newbies learn the basics, be the person others admire because you act admirebly.

As gay as it sounds, be the change you want in the world, because imagine my shock, nobody else is stepping up.

sausage4mash · 2019-05-26T09:38:43+00:00

Imbrace the absurd ie: absurdism

thiccchicken4256 · 2019-05-26T11:05:19+00:00

We are all one species, one whole. Act like it.

Hope that does something.

JakeJake254 · 2019-05-26T03:01:13+00:00

Nihilism is a graven image. There are only two taskers in life. Bear Witness that the Christ God is king, have children. All else is vanity.

Title	Nihilism is hindering my progress.
Author	mgtowmonk1234
Upvotes	51
Comments	32
Date	May 26, 2019 2:19 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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