A question to TRP from recovering son of a beta as fuck father.

RedBigMan · 2013-06-04T23:47:06+00:00

Well you have to realize that your dad despite claims there is no father figure is still your father figure. Even a beta as a father figure is better than no father figure at all.

That said, your father being a beta wont have much in the way of good advice for you as an alpha or alpha-in-training when it comes to relationships. That said, he can still be a good source of information on other topics like hobbies and what not. Is he good at woodworking or something?

The best way to reverse the constant beta bullshit though is to be able to recognize beta bullshit when you see it. Start looking for examples of beta or bluepill behavior. When you spot it think to yourself 'what is the alpha or redpill way'.

There is no right or wrong way generally in approaching relationships. Just different ways, some better, some worse. Despite what is said about betas they still do get laid just not as often or with as many different partners as alphas.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-06-04T20:57:25+00:00

You dad will respect you when you deserve it, despite himself. For the most part anyway.

He may still have that self righteous passive aggressive beta quality, but deep down inside, like any man he will respect results.

Just don't be negative with him. Just smile and admit you're a motherfucker. I GOTTA BE ME DAD.

Stayinghereforreal · 2013-06-04T20:01:52+00:00

If he is still funding your existence with his paycheck in any way, you probably have no standing to be too harsh on a guy putting food in your belly and making sleeping indoors part of your life.

That said, you should observe him and take from him whatever skills or mannerisms you think may help in life. Everybody has something to teach, it is just that some have more useful lessons than others.

Discard those behaviors of his that seem self-defeating. Keep stuff that works.

But one very key thing you should do is learn how to produce and don the "beta mask" when necessary. Learn and superficially adopt his behavior at times in life when you want to blend in or avoid notice. There will be such times, I promise you, especially in that time before you can start your own business or otherwise establish independent revenue streams. If you find yourself in a contemporary workplace, you will really want to be able to "beta blend" at key times, for self-preservation.

[deleted] · 2013-06-04T22:05:07+00:00

I too had a beta father so I completely understand. They advise against taking ANY risks in life because they are not coming from a mindset of confidence and abundance. They come from a mindset of insecurity and fear. They do anything they can to not offend others including their wives and keep their shitty jobs. Trust me, I get it.

At this point, you are just gonna have to put on the beta mask to an extent when you interact with him, but live your life the redpill way. Eventually, when you are 25-35 and living an awesome life, he will come around and respect it. Everyone respects men who are self-sufficient and confident, no matter how they went about it.

When my Dad saw that I could make more money in a few months than he could make in a year, all the talk about my behavior stopped. When he saw me with more different women in a month than he had in his entire life, the talk about relationships and women stopped too.

The proof is always in the pudding. I knew deep down that his way of living wasn't right because my mother shamefully punked him into corner too many times. I stuck with my gut and made choices to free myself from his influence. You can't allow others mental and emotional limitations stop you from becoming the man you know you can be.

veggie_girl · 2013-06-04T23:32:08+00:00

My father was an alpha but I'm a woman. He raised me as if I was a son really. The result is that I'm successful and honest with myself and others. I don't know what it would be like to have a beta as a dad but it must not be very helpful.

All you can do is use him as an example of what not to do, but be happy you have your parents. I don't have my mother and I feel like because of it I'm missing a part of where I came from. I grew up with different women around all the time, some of them weren't that nice.

Pugilanthropist · 2013-06-05T00:40:41+00:00

I think one thing that's important to remember is that your father grew up in a very different world than you. Women didn't act as openly and overtly sexual, smartphones didn't exist, Facebook didn't exist, cell phones may not have even existed. Simply put, the many, many avenues for female hypergamy just weren't there yet. As a result, some of his "old fashioned/beta" mode of being may have been perfectly fruitful in his environment.

As you know, they are not now.

So I would placate him, take what merit you can from his input, and continue to pursue being an awesome man independent of his teachings.

creativebiz · 2013-06-04T20:18:10+00:00

let yoru father be the patriarch of your family. he's the alpha to your beta. consider it a thank you for everything he did for you growing up. it doesn't mean you agree with anything beta, just let him be alpha in some things even if he doesn't realise it.

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Title	A question to TRP from recovering son of a beta as fuck father.
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Date	June 4, 2013 7:25 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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