I keep seeing examples that DO NOT support this theory, prove me I'm wrong?

TheRedPike · 2018-03-17T20:05:17+00:00

Shutting this turd-stir down. Normally we give three day bans to people that comment in asktrp posts, but I realize there was a whole lot of autism to wade through to get to the question. I'm granting a general amnesty--except for OP, of course. Sixty days in the cooler.

CC_ee · 2018-03-17T18:03:38+00:00

All of this would be answered if you read more instead of wasting time posting shit

[deleted] · 2018-03-17T18:22:52+00:00

Fast forward 9 months later, after not being in contact for 3 months once, and then another 3 months, we now talk to each other pretty frequently, I asked her out, got rejected,

All you told us supports RP theory (with the part I quote standing out).

En-Zu · 2018-03-17T18:31:58+00:00

Not understanding exactly how your two personal experiences of 1. A couple who are both apparently on the spectrum. 2. A girl you thought was nice but she rejected you because you're a beta.

As for number 2, kudos to you for not being a "nice guy" and thinking being nice to this girl entitles you to sex and being a bitter incel about it.

However, the very fact that she rejected you is proof enough of what this sub is about. Girls can be nice. I have friends that are girls. I've had ex-girlfriends I've thought were fantastic people. This sub isn't just a forum for rampant misogyny. It's just about the fact that girls, just like guys, tend to follow certain rules when they're choosing a mate. This sub lets you know the rules, and the sidebar really is worth reading for that.

RedEmbrace · 2018-03-17T18:27:47+00:00

1) People in love unconsciously expect they can't do any better - "this one is the perfect fit for me". They are glad they've found somebody as low as themselves. If (when) the power dynamic shifts the relationship will fall apart one way or another (someone will dump the other).

2) A woman is a mother AND a whore. She's kind of playing with you as a mother with HER 3 y.o. kid.

[deleted] · 2018-03-17T18:03:33+00:00

Why do people adopt the ugliest dog in the home? It's kinda cute in a way.

Thotwrecker · 2018-03-17T19:44:16+00:00

"Wouldn't it be a lot more RP to... never use RP to improve one self?

Would it be more RP to follow RP, or would it be less RP to follow RP because it means I am easily affected by others?"

---> You have very little actual life experiences, and most of your thoughts about what "the red pill" or "sexual dynamics" or "value" is has been formed by reading reddit (which is 90% fanfiction, really) and these 1-2 experiences with women.

You need to go out into the real world and not worry about forming opinions. Think about it this way - you can't just form your world view based on the one horse town you were born in. Now as a beta with very low female experience (and very low exposure to actually successful RP or BP males), you are trying to form grandiose conclusions about how the world works. Problem is, you have minor anecdotal evidence. You don't know what you don't know.

You spend your formative years "Socially awkward, inept, anxiety, 16 years of mental help, constant thoughts of suicide, terrible intrusive thoughts, 21 year old kissless virgin, shy". So what this means is you missed on out about a decade of life experiences and social experiences and learning about stuff like female behavior, social behavior, group behavior, value, attraction, validation / approval, etc.

Does this make sense? You've got a few years of actually learning how to be more alpha - not even "alpha", just less beta - and seeing the world through an alpha lens. Then you will be able to form your own valid conclusions on TRP. Until then, it's all just imagination and fanfiction. When you are low value and introverted and depressed, you literally are not seeing the world as it is, you are seeing it through a lens you have constructed. It's not "reality" - it's fantasy, which is what the concept of the BP is all about.

This is why your post is so rambling and incohesive, there's no foundation of actually knowing yourself or knowing reality. That has to be earned. If you form your world view now, you'll be fucked. Go out in the world and act. For example, I didn't really understand the value of money or careers until I had been working 5 years. I didn't understand women really until my 30th bitch or so, whereas on my 4th girl I thought I had it all figured out and no one could tell me shit. You see? You need to not worry about contemplating and forming grandiose conclusions - just focus on gaining reference experiences.

Surrender01 · 2018-03-17T19:37:51+00:00

So, here's my critique of your approach OP:

I've noticed that a lot of TRP is echo chamber-ish. There's a lot of folks here that spend their time trying to confirm the theory. But, Karl Popper 101 is that science, and knowledge/wisdom in general, is done through falsification. So, kudos there! I think this is the right approach. If TRP's philosophy is a house and not a sand castle, it'll withstand criticism.
The weakness here is you've failed to define TRP's axioms in such a way that they can be tested/disproven. There's just a vague notion of what TRP is about, what a Beta is, and what an Alpha is.
To expand on point 2, you only use a couple of personal examples/circumstantial evidence. For some of TRP's claims, AWALT most notably, only one counterexample will disprove the claim, as it's a universal claim. Other claims are not so precise, and may just be a general rule or even a comparison of what women generally do compared to men.

In conclusion, I think trying to disprove RP is the correct thing to do, but your evidence is very circumstantial and ill-defined. I encourage you to increase your understanding of RP, to better define these principles, and then to go put them to the test.

midgetpooooo · 2018-03-17T18:36:23+00:00

Read the sidebar and your awareness will strengthen.

[deleted] · 2018-03-17T20:06:31+00:00

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Title	I keep seeing examples that DO NOT support this theory, prove me I'm wrong?
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Date	March 17, 2018 5:50 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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