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[–]Hugh_Jardon1875 points76 points77 points 7 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Leftists are the scum of the earth—real shitbags. Scary how the Millennials are romanticizing socialism and communism, bankrupt philosophies that left a hundred million dead.
[–]strongandhappy33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
It's really sad. I'm atheist and there have been causes for me that aligned more with the left, but that's mostly over. They've gone completely off the deep end. If they'd get their head out of their ass they could be an important counter balance in the government. As it is I wouldn't trust them with anything.
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I think that goes for a lot of us. I remember when "Fiscally conservative, socially liberal" was my mantra. Now? My mouth can't form the second part of that sentence. Not in good conscience.
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
That was always a terrible way to label ones self anyway.
Most Liberals and Conservatives are Authoritarian. People like /u/Hugh_Jardon18 confuse Authoritarianism with "the left" or leftists.
Too many people view politics as only a scale between left and right. when in reality is 2 axis 4 quadrant compass. What most people talk about when referring to the "left" is Authoritarian left, and what most people talk about when referring to the "right" is Authoritarian Right.
Sadly we as a society are moving more and more Authoritarian both on the conservative (right) side and the liberal side (left) when we need to be moving to be more libertarian
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of it was purely ignorance on my part. I will readily admit this. A decent portion was based on tradcon discrimination against homosexuals, for example. I'm a live and let live sort of guy and don't like people forcing their (religious) views on others.
But now? Intersectionality is the religion and the left has become as authoritarian as Stalin.
[–]Hugh_Jardon189 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah sure dude the Soviet Union wasn’t “real” communism was it now? How many millions of dead do we need to pile up to prove these philosophies don’t work?
[–]-Fender-0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No, see, the Soviet Union was "Authoritarian Left". In "Libertarian Left", people freely choose to have a large portion of their salaries forcefully taken from them by the government at gunpoint so that it can redistribute part of this wealth to various social initiatives and most of the rest to the pockets of whatever donors or wealthy individuals keep them in power. See? The people freely choose to elect a government who engages in this behaviour through completely representative and unaltered democratic elections. Therefore, since they're freely engaging in this redistribution of their wealth, it's libertarian!
I'm glad I could help clear your misunderstanding.
[–]Hugh_Jardon181 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You’re a smug cocksucker who’s been smelling your own farts too long. The question was about Ben S. debating this snowflake leftist and you’re babbling some bullshit about authoritarianism.
[–]-Fender-0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You were replying to the guy who claimed that leftist policies were possible in a libertarian society. I find that concept inconceivable, and that was what my comment was portraying. If your comment was about Ben Shapiro, then why did you reply to u/SirYouAreIncorrect, when his was a generalized statement rather than one directly related to the OP? And what "question" are you even talking about? Your comment was rhetoric.
Either your last reply was completely out of place, or I'm just failing to understand what mindset could possibly make this comment chain make sense in a rational mind.
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
leftist policies were possible in a libertarian society. I find that concept inconceivable
Largely because you, like many people, do not understand what left-libertarianism actually is, you are only exposed to Left-Authoritarianism which is things like Communism, State Socialism.
Concepts like Geoism, Agorism, Bleeding Heart Libertarianism have very limited exposure and understanding.
This is evident by your satire statement of "freely choose to have a large portion of their salaries forcefully taken from them by the government" when most left-libertarians completely oppose Statism, and what most would refer to as taxation, especially any form of income based taxation where a person labor is taxed. Left Libertarians consider that to be theft of labor and unethical
[–]-Fender-0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And how do you propose we implement a leftist society, which can only exist with a large, controlling, ruling body present to ensure that wealth is "properly" redistributed, while still maintaining libertarian precepts of little to no governmental involvement and your own belongings, time and money being entirely yours to freely spend how you wish?
(Also, I looked up geoism and agorism, and those were the dictionary definitions I found. Care to share what those concepts are supposed to be? From the name, geoism, I'm assuming that it's meant to be an environmentalist of some sort, since geo is probably referring to the Earth? And Agorism is meant to be what, some form of humanitarianism?)
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who said anything about me supporting communism, which is an Authoritarian Ideology...
Also Way to go knee jerk attacking someone that was actually supporting your moronic statement, shows you deeply you think about things... Ad Hominems are always a sign we are dealing with a top rate mind
Let me guess you an ultra religious Jordan Peterson follower?
[–]Nov516051 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
yup, and there were Libertatian Left dudes like Ghandi who GOT SHIT DONE !!
[–]KleinLust1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
While sleeping naked next to underage girls to "test" himself.
[–]Nov516050 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah thats def a bad side of him i dont endorse. That said there are also conservative as well as liberal pedos in the history of politics. Ghandi at least revolutionized the power of active non participation, which is the True Spirit of mgtow
[–]cobaltcolander0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've had the same itinerary. The first red flag was the SJWs incessant war on free speech.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I lean right on most things but we need left leaning people too. Jordan Peterson points out the role they play as eloquently as anyone I've ever heard. They keep us from stasis. Leftists probably invented half the shit we like to use on the internet (even though it's time for them to stop abusing that shit and silencing dissent).
[–]TheJoestarDescendant5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If by left-leaning we use the definition of "big government, government controlled economy advocating people", I disagree completely.
[–]AngelTe2016-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
iscally conservative,
cant have your cake and eat it too. without the left we would already have been invaded by now
[–]KobayashiDragonSlave-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, We need chaos(left) to counteract order (right). Otherwise it becomes a living hell for those who are at the bottom of the social order
[–]WhaleTails130 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it will never work as long as we keep putting greedy ass people in as leaders who would rather put all the money towards space forces, walls and wars for oil.
[–]Chyusuru9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s better than planned parenthood
[–]Hugh_Jardon189 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MAGA
THIS. If we dont get money out of politics, we will become Venezuela in no time
[–]GroovySarsaparilla-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We need space forces! How else do we fight space terrorizers? How else would we fight the oncoming gay alien invasions? Cause you know all those anal probes that abductees talk about weren't all for the aliens research into our species.
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[–]Belrick_NZ8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thats ok though. Its the entitled opinionated and demanding that is the problem
Strip the vote
[–]Tidder904 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh it's not just Americans... This cancer has spread worldwide.
Except Saudi Arabia probably.
[–]Memetric5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
From Pakistan, can confirm this is true.
You'd think that with all the honor killings, underaged marriages and domestic violence the women's rights activists (pretty much all of whom are from educated and developed backgrounds) would give a little more priority towards helping women in backwards areas. You'd think wrong. All they care about is racking up as much victim points for the stupidest shit possible so they can blame men for all their problems with no repercussions.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All female politicians are idiots. Left and right
[–]anticultured4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We could probably be friends.
[–]SovereignSoul762 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just the WAY she talks makes it obvious she's a dolt. It's immediately apparent that the lights are on, but noone is home. She talks like a 14 year old.
[–]AvailableGuava2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
just heard today, she actually also won in a district in the Bronx she didnt even run in as a write in candidate! we're fucked...
[–]T00000092 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
American millenial women, completely insane, retarded and clueless.
[–][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would pay a very high ticket price to witness Shapiro take on this bartender.
[–]ziggmuff11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Noice.
And donate all the ticket sales to 2020 Trump campaign. I mean at this point why not?
[–]drummerdude123222 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
I hate how this sub turns into r/politics sometimes. Im down with this whole MGTOW thing but Im also not a conservative. This place is pretty toxic for anyone on the other end of the spectrum and its really a shame. Its the only thing that turns me off of this sub, not that anyone cares lol
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago* (34 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is about maximizing male freedom. The current left is completely against any male freedom thanks to "regressive progressives" taking over the Democrat party.
How can you support the party that nominated fucking corrupt ass feminazi cunt Hillary Clinton?
I can understand being an Independent or classical liberal, libertarian or conservative MGTOW but it is pretty impossible to be a current "regressive progressive" Democrat MGTOW.
The current Democrats are all feminist extremists or fucking socialist/communist morons.
How the fuck can you reconcile supporting people who want to discriminate against men?
[–]drummerdude123222 points23 points24 points 7 years ago* (30 children) | Copy Link
I didnt say that I supported the democratic party or Hillary Clinton. I definitely dont support all the SJW bullshit thats gone way too far such as trying to create genders and obviously all of the feminazi stuff. I consider myself a progressive but not a "regressive progressive" as you put it. I guess I would classify myself as a rational progressive. But seriously, there are tons of posts here that are basically just "MAGA, abortion is murder, womens rights should be taken away" and that shit is honestly cancer and Im sure it drives a lot of people away. Personally I just try to ignore it and focus on the content that relates to me, but just something that this sub should think about if it wants to continue growing without alienating men with different political views.
Edit: inb4 "no such thing as a rational progressive" lol
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (29 children) | Copy Link
To be honest, there is no such thing as a rational progressive these days.
To your points, there is no way to get around the fact that abortion after a few months is ending a human life, it is essentially murder. You can argue the morality of the act but you can't argue that life in the womb is not life. We don't magically go from a non living creature to suddenly a living creature.
Why does the notion of Making America Great Again offend you? That is a good thing we should all want, we should all want our nation to be great. The current regressive socialists, progressives and communists all seem to preach against nationalism. They keep trying to push the cancer that is globalism will only lead to more authoritarianism.
We shouldn't have so much power rooted in the United Nations or any other international body.
When men here talk about taking any rights away for women, they talk about this: taking away the extra rights and privileges that women unfairly have over men:
Such as women not being forced to sign up for selective service,
Women always receiving preferential and reduced sentencing for equivalent crimes
Women are always deemed as the victim even when there is evidence of them committing rape or domestic violence against a male
This is what most of us want changed.
That is not taking women's rights away, this is enforcing true gender equality.
Go look at the current progressive movement, they say they want gender equality but they will only do things that benefit women and actively push policies to harm men.
Current progressives say they fight for equality for all races and what they do? They always enforce affirmative action quotas against White and Asian men.
Current progressives say they support the freedom of speech?
What do they do?, they currently are attempting to silence all opposing voices who are not part of their progressive clique.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the current progressive movement has been fully hijacked by the regressive progressives and feminists and rationality is dead in the progressive movement.
[–]drummerdude12324 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I get what youre saying, but I already told you that Im against most of that. I dont really wanna get into my views on every little aspect of progressivism but Im just saying, there are rational people on the entire political spectrum. I can believe in the core values of progressivism without going along with all the really stupid stuff that gets over-hyped in the media. Real progressives that Ive worked with at the local level are not like what they hype up in the news. Most that ive met are just regular people with sane views that just happen to have a difference of opinion on economics and other issues.
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link
It is not just the media, it is also who are the progressive state level/national level candidates being run.
When you have socialist shitheads like Cortez say they are the progressive candidates, you know that movement has been co-opted.
[–]drummerdude12324 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
The media has you thinking that progressives are true socialists, when really democratic socialism is just another word for allocating taxes in a different way to benefit the people rather than special interests. Its not true socialism, and not even close to it. Its a bad branding on their part, but either way. If someone listened to CNN they would have you believe that everyone on the right is a Nazi, so dont fall for the trap in thinking that everyone on the left is a communist. Cant fall for the media BS man you seem way smarter than that.
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link
It is not the media who have pushed socialism and wealth redistribution it is the so called progressive candidates who have ruined your movement.
If any of the progressive national candidates had rational policies and not free stuff for everyone paid by taxes, you would have a point that there are rational progressives.
If there are rational progressives why did you all let the crazy sjw and feminists hijack your movement?
Those are the ones screaming progressive.
When your movement has some of the worst people in all of society, we don't need media portrayals.
I have lived in Democratic socialist nations and that is why I am now a staunch capitalist. That shit never works in any society that has free riders.
Give people free shit and they will leech of the system and won't contribute.
Progressive economics is laughable in action.
I am not knocking progressivism randomly, I have seen the deleterious effects it had in a few different countries I lived in.
That shit will never work in a non-homogenous nation like America. Too much conflict and free loading happens here already. Go look at welfare queen single mothers. I will do my best to make sure less of my money goes to those rodents.
[–]drummerdude12327 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Thats fine man, im not trying to change your opinion or anyone else's here. I respectfully disagree. My point was just that there are people like me who lurk this sub and dont agree with conservative politics, and while some of it is justified and makes sense, a lot of it just seems super unnecessary and over the top. As I posted below to another commenter, MGTOW is about men having the freedom to go their own way and other men supporting them in their right to do so. This sentiment should apply to politics as well, in my opinion.
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You have the right to have whatever politics you want to believe in.
Only thing that won't happen is you expecting people here to welcome openly political viewpoints that really extensively harm men such as current progressivism.
Do your own thing but don't expect most of us here to support policies that end up only helping the worst of society at the expense of the hard working.
[–]hfbvm-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
I mean, we want men to be able to go their own way. But we won't let anyone else. I really liked this sub but recently it's been full of MAGA bullshit and women hating incel culture. I don't live in America but a blind man could say their president is a horrible person. I don't know what's so wrong with feeding the poor, so much that half the country absolutely hates it to the core. What's wrong with poor people just being able to get medical treatment. With people educating themselves to why the sky is blue during the day and red during sundown.
I just want to talk to people who just want what's best for them and want to self improve. Help other men, warn them about issues in life, help the society. Not, why she abort, why she take male actor role, why she fuck 20 men. Take all the shit to braincels or something.
I honestly don't get why they love Ben so much either, all he does is gotcha type shit. Bring out the real answers, the solutions to the questions people are asking, not hurr Durr you misspoke a word, you misframed a sentence, you used lefty word.
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[–]drummerdude12320 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I saw that one coming lol. Nobody is seizing the means of production. Just tryna get universal healthcare and education just like the rest of the world 👍
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bachelor degrees are already becoming worthless even when education has a financial cost.
Degree inflation will be the result of universal education. Right now atleast some peope are not being indoctrinated by the regressive progressive college system. Universal college will doom this nation to sjwism and feminism brainwashing.
Also fuck raising taxes on the middle class to pay for healthcare and education for the leeches of society.
I will do my best to ensure capitalism prevails and the leeches don't get free shit.
[–]DIG_ROOKIE_DIG1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with your sentiment, and think you're coming from the right place with it, but the reality is that we live in the real world.
I think any functioning person would be happy with any sort of utopia you could imagine, including free quality healthcare and education -but utopias do not exist. Somebody has to pay for it. Human beings are motivated by success and economics.
In the example of health care, obviously the industry wouldn't just collapse overnight -far from it, look at Canada. But also, look at Canada -shit quality care with terrible wait times. If I'm really sick, I don't want to wait 7 hours for some burned out doctor who thought he got into med school to not only help people, but to also become wealthy, look over a chart for 20 seconds and then tell me to take an over the counter pain reliever.
Same with education. I think it would be dandy if I could get a quality education for free, but that simply doesn't work. You aren't going to get your best and brightest in a system absent capitalism.
Insurance, at the end of the day, is a good thing. So is tuition. It drives people by their selfish and innate desires to make bankrolls, and they develop superior products and services.
So I think, from what I've read above, your real concern lies with the fact that human nature is typically self centered and people like to get rich.
And I'm okay with people having that belief, greed in and of itself is not a great quality -but without it, lots of people aren't going to have incentive to be great. Sure, a few will do really well regardless of their income, and those are truly caring people who are in it for their own reasons.
But the vast majority would simply become stale, burned out, and the service quality of literally any "free x" industry would bottom out.
There's a reason foreign nationals send their kids to the US for school. There's also a reason people in socialized healthcare countries choose private practitioners when they can afford it.
Then there's the argument from the socialist side of things, "Well yea, but at least there's a guaranteed minimum for the people who can't afford it" -that's true, but there is also a guaranteed minimum right now. If you're truly sick or injured, no hospital is going to turn you away -they can't. If you go into an ER, you WILL get treatment, and that treatment will be better than if it were in the ER of a socialized system full of burned out employees. You might get a bill that you can't pay, but so what? What are they going to do? Take it out in collections? Put it on your credit report?
I'm not saying the system is perfect, far from it -but it's a lot closer to working than just throwing our hand in the air and screaming, "Hey look everybody, there's free healthcare over here!"
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm just gonna butt in here. When you say what you mean about taking women's rights away, how exactly are you supposed to achieve that? You do realize women are the majority of voters right? And since we live in a democracy they will never let go of their privileges.
So I'm not sure about you or others but when I say taking women's rights away, I'm talking about restoring male authority and taking away women's right to vote. If you don't take their right to vote, you will never change anything. None of what you want changed when you say "take women's rights away" will be changed.
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not insane. This is not exactly MGTOW stuff, it's more like, saving Western society.
Now listen. I don't hate women, I don't see them as sub human. They're just irresponsible and cannot handle power. They want all the privileges that come with authority, but no responsibility.
Now if you want anything to change, tell me. Please please tell me. How are you gonna change anything if women are the majority of voters and will not give away their privileges?
Now taking away their right to vote doesn't mean taking their basic human rights. Jesus I'm not an incel ya know. Like I said, they're humans and it's just how women are built.
[–]OneTruePhilosoraptor4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly as extreme as that sounds, it will most definitely without a doubt improve this nation if it happened.
Female voters are responsible for many of the worst policies coming to pass especially the preferential treatment that they receive in all matters.
They are also responsible for most of the progressive virtue signalling affirmative action policies and the open borders "diversity" pushing bullshit.
I am realistic though and know that unless a great war or collapse happens and the smart side wins, there won't ever be a denial of voting rights for them.
However the scary part is that if feminists continue to gain more power, they will definitely try to deny voting rights to anyone not kowtowing to their idealogy, then society is really fully done for.
Women getting the vote is honestly one of the worst things to happen to western society.
I am a libertarian but women having the vote is one of the hardest things for me to condone when they have proven time and time again to vote for the worst candidates and worst policies just because of their hive-mind virtue signalling nature.
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I'm sorry what's that? No reply? How come? No ideas on how to solve the problem?
[–]figyg-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably a poor kid raised without a father
[–]ziggmuff-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach bro-hymn!
[–]ziggmuff11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Lol r/ politics is the complete opposite of this sub. Mgtow doesn't ban you for having a left leaning opinion, we just explain how you're wrong if you are and let you stay. And I might feel bad if the left's toxicity didn't populate 99% of everything in my life, thank christ there's one place (god forbid) where it doesn't.
Another responder to your comment explains it pretty well also, I'm just sick of this wah! this place is not lib friendly! garbage when literally you could go anywhere else to be in your safe space.
*edit I hate linking to that shit sub so I put a space
[–]drummerdude12325 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I guess I just meant that this sub is way too politically charged for it to continue growing without pushing some men away. And I do understand how MGTOW in lots of ways relates to politics, but a lot of the stuff on here is basically just conservative propaganda that might turn some people off.
10 points for Gryffindor for using the buzzword 'safespace' though, always gotta get one in when conversing with someone on the left.
[–]ziggmuff0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey, I feel yah.
Sorry if I came off too aggressive.
I think the point is if dudes literally can't handle the views expressed here they most likely can't handle the accountability of MGTOW.
Just for curiosity, what is wrong with the views expressed here? What exactly do you disagree with in particular? Maybe some on here can have you see it from our perspective.
[–]drummerdude12324 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No worries man. Its not that I cant handle the views here, like I said I just sift through and find the content that relates to me, but I just think youre really limiting this sub when stuff like this gets posted. Imo this sub is best when it is men supporting eachother in going their own way, whichever way that may be. Liberal, conservative, independent, democrat, republican, etc. The political spectrum is huge and this sub seems to just ruthlessly bash the left which to me just seems like its missing the point about men being free to go their own way, in terms of politics or whatever else in life.
Also to answer your question about what I find wrong with the views expressed here, heres a quote from the top upvoted comment on this post.
"Leftists are the scum of the earth—real shitbags."
[–]cobaltcolander2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She did say that she won't debate Shapiro because his invitation was the same as catcalling/sexual harassment. So yeah, it fits here.
[–]LabTech414 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nah, we'd have to go full communist cuck to be r/politics.
We'd also probably want someone to 'deal with' Trump, not that we're trying to incite something, mind you...
I mean, spend 5 minutes on that sub and ask yourself if we'd still be around if this sub was like that one.
[–]drummerdude12320 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I dont even visit r politics lol I have no idea what its like over there. I was just trying to make the point that this sub is overly political for no real reason.
[–]LabTech410 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think it's overly political, I think it's political to the extent being political is warranted. When women agitate for policies that benefit them at the expense of men, it does behoove us to speak on it.
Trust me, we're not even in the same universe as the clusterfuck inbred bubble shitposters that go on that sub, not even close. ANY discussion we'd have here would be downvoted almost instantly, and you'd have a dozen people telling you that you're a horrible person once you're down below everyone else's comments. I'm serious, the most replies I ever get to what I say comes from subs like r/politics or r/politicalhumor (which you'd THINK were politically neutral) who tell me I suck about a reasonable point that's said to actually support a moderate liberal position, AFTER it's been banished to below the bottom of the page with like 20 downvotes. There are fuckers there that make it their business to tell the people at the bottom how evil they are.
I mean, I won't demand that you try to make a reasonable point on any post there, but if you ever REALLY want to see the contrast, give it a spin and tell me how it worked out for you. Trust me, we're fine, and the mods here are good enough that anything that goes too far gets checked appropriately.
[–]ThanatopsisRex0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate how this sub turns into r/politics sometimes.
And you just need to look at the comments in this post to see the result. It's almost as if someone were intentionally planting these types of lightning rod statements. Hmmm.
"divide and conquer".
[–]anticultured0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m with you, except I am conservative I hate when I stumble on a political post unnecessarily and out of line with my philosophy. But it happens everyday. Try stumbling around ANYWHERE on Reddit. /r/pics for the last two days had a man wearing a cap that said “Make Racism Wrong Again.” Hurr durr.
For that matter try being a conservative in Hollywood, or in university, or anything art related. The list goes on.. It’s not just Reddit.
The divide between conservatives and liberals is largely nonexistent, assuming both want freedom and liberty. You aren't communicating and finding common ground, that's the problem. Freedom doesn't reside on a political spectrum.
Mostly because laws passed can easily affect our freedom. Most of men's problems in the West are due to bad laws
[–]confesstousher11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is that her Congressional opponent in NY's 14th district?
Cause that's how debates usually work.
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Careful what you wish for.
[–]drummerdude12322 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly lol. If every politician took the time to debate any random person that asked for a debate, they wouldnt have time for anything else.
[–]Cryptozu17765 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Beware of TradCons. They may help you in this fight but they will go to war to get you back on the plantation.
Yes I'm aware. This meme is more about female nature and her cowardness than Ben Shapiro...
[–]maggot_brain794 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I do like Ben and I agree with most of what he says, but he's a total Tradcon through and through. That's pretty much the one thing I vehemently disagree with him on.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Super religious Tradcon. Yea I’m good
[–]KaitouNala3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMtD1ZuqUZg
thought y'all might like this video, its related.
[–]ziggmuff0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That was GREAT
[–]kalyrakandur2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I love to watch Ben annihilate ignorant women during his debates.
[–]ziggmuff4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hell I love him doing it to men too.
Guy is super smart, I smile just hearing his name I'm just so glad we have people like him and Larry Elder.
[–]kalyrakandur0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I 100% concur.
[–]lister7772 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Shapiro is still a leftist though.
Maybe. It doesn't really matter. The meme is about how she fails to take any responsibility for anything that comes out of her mouth.
[–]Elevory1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's right about the kebab restaurants, though.
[–]drummerdude12321 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well I mean, you willingly debated a girl that spoke no english... really swinging for the fences huh?
[–]JohnnySkidmarx1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She’s mentally ill
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I don't understand why people hate on Ben Shapiro, the man only comes with straight up facts.
Admits everything he is, is willing to debate everybody, and always has an argument.
[–]Elevory0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Shapiro is a white knight. He's no doubt sharp and entertaining, but he's most likely controlled opposition. Just look at his comments about Alex Jones, James Gunn, Roy Moore. Ben forwards the mainstream narrative despite his conservative leanings--you certainly won't find him defending men's rights.
I'd still love to watch him obliterate Ocasio-Cortez in a political debate.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can you share a link?
[–]Elevory0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
On Roy Moore: https://youtu.be/2YmYH87HwC4?t=40s
Shaprio has a history of promoting "guilty until proven innocent" when a man is accused of sexually harassing a woman. Ben will justify his position by saying that the evidence is "highly credible" (whatever the hell that means) and, in the case of Moore, never once brings up the evidence to the contrary, such as the falsified yearbook signature.
Hmm that definitely adds to my point of view.
There's no doubt he's intelligent but part of the problem is he cites facts coming from government and university studies, which are influenced by political and corporate endowments. Fruit from the poisoned tree so to speak. No public study or social research can be fully trusted at this point.
[–]karrenspoor2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What does this have to do with MGTOW?
What's wrong Ocazio? Afraid of a little conversation...dialogue?
[–]garbagethrowaway2220 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who is the girl?
[–]cobaltcolander-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
At least she didn't call him rapist.
That never stopped a feminist from reeeeeeee-ing rape.
BTW, I noticed we've triggered a feminazi.
[–]AngelTe2016-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
So in other words. Its "MGTOW" *cough* conservative *cough* only when its convenient for you? It shouldn't matter if its left or right. Feminism is anti-partisan , lets keep it that way. Im voting for her because as a white male, her policies benefit me all while going my own way as I have disregarded females.
[–]swingalone1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
... as a white male ...
that race/sex invocation seems suspicious
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
as a white male, her (socialist) policies benefit me
That may be the most pathetic sentence I have ever read.
Also, brush up on what socialism actually is. It's government ownership and wealth confiscation. Dumbass fucking left-cucks have manipulated you into thinking socialism is just "nice things".
[–]AngelTe2016-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
holy shit, so you don't want me to have health care, education and a home ? With that I might as well not go my own way and get married. At least that way there is paycheck around there somewhere. Without socialism you would have no roads built to go to work. Without socialism you wouldn't have military protection. Socialism is exactly the things you are begging your tax dollars to go to. What more shitty is you want your taxes to go to fake wars that WE start. Sound a hell of a lot how women spend their money. IRRESPONSIBLE. Wealth confiscation my ass.
Did you know that the only wealth redistribution going on right now is corporate welfare and tax cuts? Hmmm sound familiar?! Sounds like alimony and child support without getting a wife and kids. Corporations taking your paycheck just like women. Feminism is based on those same money stealing principals. Unbelievable.
so you don't want me to have health care, education and a home?
If I have to pay for it, you aren't getting shit. That's what jackoffs like you don't understand. Other people pay for your indolence. Now you'll have to excuse me. I have to work in a few hours. Gotta build up that bank account to pay for all your "human rights".
One more thing, equating tax cuts with the welfare state is just a bullshit talking point your shepherds fed you to make you angry and compliant.
You'll understand these truths once you make it out of middle school.
[–]AngelTe20160 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your views are no different than a womans. You work and pay taxes, great, so stop complaining your tax money is going to cover your ass when you lose your job. I do so wish you lose EVERYTHING and you wont be singing this corporatism tune anymore. And you know whats ironic? It isn't going to be a woman taking your wealth away. It will be the very corporate hand that fed you. You can count on it!
Cool.
[–]cobaltcolander0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can you elaborate on how her policies benefit white males like you?
[–]AngelTe2016-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
affordable housing, and healthcare. Without it, a man isnt going his own way for very long.
Thanks for your answer. It's food for thought.
[–]Andy2SS0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Socialism will not benefit you, you might be first in the firing line - when communism finally arrives
[–]AngelTe20160 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
While feminism is in full force, socialism totally benefits me. I dont have to work to get pussy which means I can work 10 hours per week, get free housing and food. Use my earned money to go my own way travel the world.
[–]Andy2SS1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not socialism!
Socialism is government ownership of industry/business and wealth confiscation. GYOW is only possible through capitalist channels.
This idiot has no idea what he's actually asking for. I almost hope he gets it.
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