I was asked at a party if MGTOW is a hate group; here is my reply to that question.

"If a bunch of guys complaining how shitty Women can be and vowing never to be in any kind of relationship is a hate group then every Woman whose ever complained about a Man to another Woman is also part of a hate group".

It was good to see them try and chew this down, realise it would choke them, but obviously couldn't spit it back out. By the time they had considered both options, the silence had gone on for too long, so I lightened the mood by changing topics.