Straight men have it worse than gay men at this point

MR_SHITLORD · 2017-11-20T16:21:59+00:00

Welcome brother.

Chill-BL · 2017-11-20T16:55:30+00:00

I don't believe "all women are like that"

it's probably because you never chased, and you didn't had prolonged relationships with them. there certain tendencies we name "AWALT". men have also certain tendencies that is more prone to men.

the worst tendencies (worst as in morally questioning).

Hypergamy
Shaming/guilting someone
Victim mentality

there is a bunch of others. but in the right conditions most(if not all) women will act upon the above mentioned. it doesn't mean they go out of their home and start randomingly shaming and guilting people. but when push comes to shove they will.

strangerthing7 · 2017-11-20T17:09:08+00:00

Welcome rainbow-brother! :) It's always heartwarming to receive support and kind words.

rektumsempra · 2017-11-20T18:53:34+00:00

Straight men have it the hardest. I'm bi and if I go on a straight app (tinder) I get barely any likes and then if I go on a gay app (surge) I can't even count the amount of likes I get, and it was so soon after I set up my account that I had never even liked anyone yet.

2017-11-20T19:13:56+00:00

A gay MGTOW... and true MGTOW at that - single and not looking for a relationship. Respect!

2017-11-20T18:37:26+00:00

I'm guessing a lot of hostility toward gays is on the decline because straight men are finally starting to understand gay men. There aren't many straight men asking why gay men don't want to hang around women. There was a time when gay men were not trusted around children. Now all men are not trusted around children.

It's certainly a strange turn of events.

MGTOW_4Life · 2017-11-20T17:12:12+00:00

Thank you for your words of support! I'm also in the hard sciences (one with a significant number of women but not too many bad experiences), so I know how easy it can be to isolate oneself from the modern women. Nothing quite dries them up than a guy who makes effectively a minimum wage stipend. I'm unfortunately straight, so there's no hope for me to screw around without getting screwed over, but I certainly hope for you if you ever return to the dating market that you get all the best a good gay man has to offer.

IoSonCalaf · 2017-11-20T17:17:39+00:00

Such heartwarming support of our gay brother(s). I'm proud of our MGTOW community

The_TylerDurden · 2017-11-20T19:31:18+00:00

''...for whatever reason they are few and far between.''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-7BEPKXuQk

They have no need to be interesting. Men are so thirsty they will pander to any room temp IQ broad they perceive to have a chance of having sex with. Everything is given to them by the manginas and every day that passes women feel less and less the need for any kind of intellectually challenging activity.

The brain and your higher functions, like any other muscle, need exercise and if you don't use it, you lose it. Women are/have been becoming dumber. And it gets worse, some are so entitled and delusional they don't even bother with common courtesy and decency. I imagine as a gay men you may not be privy to the cruelty your averge cute snowflake can inflict for no apparent reason other than because they can and of course their solipsism.

Because of the advent of abominations such as Tinder and the like, the women now have direct and constant interaction with an army of thirsty manginas that are desperate for a whiff of golden vagina and will do anything for it. Their ego blasts thru the stratosphere and they let go of any and all duties an what once was a contract with The Male, albeit never a good one, is all but burned to the ground.

Now we are left with the current situation: runaway hypergamy, a legal system voted in place to favour women in ALL areas, almost de facto loss on the male part in parental control, the absurd idea that a woman can simply SAY she was raped without any evidence and the man's life is all but over. The chasm between the sexes is ever widening.

And if you commit the crime of mentioning any of this you are, obviously, a misogynist.

The 'whatever reason' is clear as day; They don't give a flying fuck about anything beyond the following question: ''What will get the resources extracted from the hyperagent male with highest efficiency?''

The aswer is sex. Why think, if you can fuck someone and he'll pay your bills?

The argument of AWALT is not that the entire population of females is precisely like this with the exact same degrees. It is a statistical reality that in the current environment of evaporating need for female responsibility and insane male thirst, coupled with the evolutionary structure of the female lizard-mind, we are left with a scenario of stupid whores that learn to be stupid whores because it is the highest efficiency resource extraction method.

What is predicted by the thesis is exactly what we see. That's why AWALT.

And furthermore, even with a woman that was raised to not be a moronic prostitute, she too will be faced with this environment and slowly realize that thinking, for a woman, is a waste of energy. Influenced by the seasoned whores they too will drop out of stable relationships out of ''boredom'' to have their adventure in their highest neoteny years and indeed have a good time being spit roasted and having an army of manginas pay for everything. Until they smash against the wall.

From then on it's ''Where have all the good men gone?''

Sorry for the rant, I do that sometimes.

Gravityhurtsbrother · 2017-11-20T17:38:03+00:00

To the OP, I'm guessing you're in the states?

Where I am in Europe a guy telling me he is gay registers about the same as him telling me he had a KFC for lunch. Nice one bro but so what?

Its not even a thing here now, and I'm not some young hipster. Im in my 40s.

Blankaccount111 · 2017-11-20T18:58:38+00:00

Do you believe that legalization of gay marriage was just a way to sucker in homosexuals to the "plantation" since straight men are opting out? Not really about rights? Or just unrelated?

MethaCat · 2017-11-20T19:15:19+00:00

I would like to think that most of the guys going their own way never had a problem with gay people. The philosophy of i do me you do you I think it's kind of the base of that. And yeah most likely the same people going after gays will be the same kind that goes after MGTOW. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

panzerbier · 2017-11-20T22:15:11+00:00

I know being gay is not a choice and I fully support LGBTQ equality. I wish, however, that it was a choice. It would be awesome to be attracted to someone who's NOT genetically incapable of loving me and only after my resources.

I'm thinking pretty hard about dating trans women. A woman's body with a man's soul. Might be a good solution.

2017-11-20T16:37:13+00:00

Always nice to meet someone else who gets it. Lucky!! 😁

2017-11-20T18:08:52+00:00

It's not a movement it's just a acronym associated with s lifestyle choice.

ilmagnoon · 2017-11-20T18:32:54+00:00

Nice to have you here man. We may have different sexual orientations, but we all deal with the same shit from society.

2017-11-20T19:43:55+00:00

I wish I was gay, dude. I seem to usually relate to men more. I wish I was sexually attracted towards men and didn't think women were only sexually attractive.

FreeManIsFrank · 2017-11-20T20:26:24+00:00

I don't believe "all women are like that"

I saw a cute Greek chick earlier today. Then I noticed a tall Chad appear, and I swear I saw the pupils of her eyes dilate with glee. She was smiling at him, trying to get his attention. He barely acknowledged her and he went back to staring at his phone. She could have a boyfriend, or be engaged/married, but she would have dropped to her knees and sucked off Chad if he smiled back at her.

TheJamesRocket · 2017-11-20T21:11:49+00:00

Come on dude, I thought straight white males were living life on easy mode? Gay guys aren't supposed have an opinion that contradict the party line! You're just supposed to be diversity props in the liberals cynical game of politics.

2017-11-20T22:59:48+00:00

I was always disgusted of how women wanted gay men to be their "pets" and go with them to get their hair done and shit like that. I'm sure they use shaming tactics and all of their other bullshit tricks to get gay men to hang out with them as well.

Her-"Going to Starbucks with my gay friend Timmy later!

Reality-(announcing she is high status with her expensive bullshit drink, open for some more cc, and here is her omega orbiter).

She made you into an accessory, a fucking coach handbag that can speak (mostly about her though). Whenever I hear a woman talking about going out with her gay friend I cringe for that poor motherfucker. If I were a gay dude I'd fucking despise women because of shit like this.

cleats4u · 2017-11-20T18:38:03+00:00

Most men can be reasoned with because they don't want physical confrontations if they get cunty. A cunt has nothing to worry about in these situations. She can be as a big a cunt as she wants to be.

ramot1 · 2017-11-20T19:16:46+00:00

"I've been lurking here for a while ..."

Not to dispute the validity of his other comments, but OP joined Nov 20, 2017.

2017-11-20T20:03:02+00:00

Same here! So glad I am not straight these days. I am on your side fellas.

Jarwanator · 2017-11-20T20:11:14+00:00

My straight friends and I tend to go on night outs these days in gay village. Everyone is out to actually dance and have a good time. Quit going to "straight" clubs due to the hostile environment and the fear of getting our heads kicked in for looking at someone the wrong way not to mention bouncers will let any girl in but if you are a guy there is a quota. Gay village is probably the best thing that ever happened for straight men here :'D

RunThroughKing · 2017-11-20T20:13:06+00:00

Welcome homie ...MGTOW is for all men focused solely on improving ...appreciate the insight from a gay man

MGTOWManofMystery · 2017-11-20T20:25:35+00:00

Hell yeah! One of my best friends is gay. He totally relates to me and to what you wrote.

Sometimes wish I were gay. It must be so much easier! Too bad I'm 100% straight. D'oh!

niggerplease2 · 2017-11-20T20:27:31+00:00

there are 2 types of sexuality in the animal kingdom straight, and mentally ill. Get help.

streloksartifact · 2017-11-20T21:13:09+00:00

MGTOW actually helped me to reconsider prejudices I had against other men. The reason a lot of men look down on men who aren't considered manly is to boost their image in front of females. I'm still only attracted to females, but I've realized that pedestalizing women leads men to act certain roles which involves mocking and downgrading other men solely to gain a woman's approval and "love". I've seen how women break up friendships by ridiculing a man's friends and brainwashing a man to do the same until he becomes her slave. It's toxic femininity. I avoid men who are prepared to do this easily and you can spot them from their thirsty behavior. MGTOW has also helped me to reconsider issues of race in a new light (although I am still skeptical of certain mainstream historical opinions) by understanding that without this stupid alpha competition game that men play against one another, most men would just get on with life. We don't really have a reason to hate each other when we stop competing for females and female attention. Competition for money, which can lead to bad behavior, is generally caused by competition for females. Sadly, a lot of men are brainwashed by toxic femininity and have to be avoided.

MattFoley79 · 2017-11-20T21:21:01+00:00

Thanks a lot for posting this.

BookusRecommendicus · 2017-11-20T21:31:41+00:00

Gay MGTOW checking in here, completely agree. I am so fucking thankful that I was granted immunity from Pussy Fever. I have no idea how you poor fucks put up with those hellbeasts, but you have both my pity and my support.

Itisforsexy · 2017-11-20T21:32:08+00:00

Now, there are plenty of examples of men in my life who have happy and long-lasting relationships with women, and I don't believe "all women are like that"

I just want to clarify one point in regards to AWALT. This statement is referring to the basic instincts like hypergamy. All women have this, yes.

However, not all women will choose to act upon these instincts. Now in my view, it's a very small minority of women who choose not to act on their instincts if there are no consequences for doing so. But they do exist. Humans have that incredible capacity to say no to the nagging internal instincts we're programmed with.

It simply isn't worth the risk in trying to find such a girl.

MGTOWAYER · 2017-11-20T22:06:03+00:00

I'd love to hear some observations from outsiders to our world, as to the reality as they see it. You're not part of the hetero dating world, so who better than to observe, than someone without a horse in the race? I'm betting you don't get the "all women are like that" thing, because women show a different face to you, as a gay man, and treat you differently. Straight women, we all know, love their gay besties! :) And you make a good point - we should be all focused on what makes us happy, wether it's monk mode or not. Happiness is fleeting in our modern world, so the more of it we can make, the better off we are.

2017-11-20T23:25:11+00:00

I honestly thought lgbt was banned here. Well, nice to know the community (at least) isn't hostile.

If you're right leaning, I suggest you visit /r/rightwinglgbt

MGTOWMediator · 2017-11-20T23:12:33+00:00

OP: Welcome and thank you for your kind words of support.

If I may I had a question to ask I've been wondering.

Although I'm straight I've thought about trying to network within the GBLT community to form friendships with like minded gay men since there doesn't seem to be options to network just with men out there (no apps etc).

If I created a Grindr account for that do you think that could be perceived as weird or "invading" their space type thing?

rahulsharma125 · 2017-11-20T17:42:22+00:00

Is MGTOW related with gayism??

Title	Straight men have it worse than gay men at this point
Author	Throwaway_647262749
Upvotes	142
Comments	101
Date	November 20, 2017 4:16 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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