Incels are a funny bunch

TigPlaze · 2018-06-02T16:05:53+00:00

Now the media is trying to demonize incels as the next terrorist group when they're really just a bunch of frustrated guys.

ProgrammaticallyMeal · 2018-06-02T20:13:56+00:00

MGTOW. - we are far from Incels.

Yes, correct.

The majority of us, never had problems getting girls, let alone never even holding a girls hand lol.

No, do not argument like that. This is a women speaking from inside you. This is the argumentation angle which presupposes that women determine a man's value, which they do not. How many STD-ridden pussy a man has got does not determine a man's value and legitimates his opinion in some way. A man only determines his value himself. A man who has slept with zero women can go MGTOW same as a man who has slept with 100 women. Women do not matter.

The fundamental difference between MGTOW and incel is that incels seek validations by females while MGTOW do not care about validation by females. Incel place high value on women's opinion, MGTOW do not.

Any man can train himself to mentally become more and more independent from outside validation.

the_emerald_ingot · 2018-06-02T18:51:35+00:00

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Tookthemethpill · 2018-06-02T16:33:46+00:00

They just can’t believe we would actually choose not to get into relationships because they would literally sell a kidney just for a chance for one night with Stacey. Unfortunately, its still common for most people to think “If you have a chance to get with a girl, why wouldn’t you??”

Also, to add, I hate the term incel. These guys are not actually “involuntary celibate” they are just 4-5/10 dudes that want 7-9/10 girls but want it to be easy like Chad gets them. They are as close to female as it gets while being technically male.

Fuck em. They keep burning bridges with potential allies, if they die they die.

migmxke · 2018-06-02T18:11:16+00:00

Most mgtows voluntarily chase peace of mind, and not a piece of used pussy, so we're radically different than them. We don't base our life and happiness around that stinky meathole.

khateebxtreme · 2018-06-02T17:47:03+00:00

i am 17 , never been into any kind of relationships with females was bluepilled to core .. but after learning from other's mistakes ..i think i am quite fortunate to be ugly

TheDevilsAdvokaat · 2018-06-02T20:54:08+00:00

Sounds about right.

MGTOW are the guys that got laid and decided sex is not worth being beholden to women.

INCEL are the guys that never got laid and are bitter about it.

One thing about INCEL though - even though they've been rejected en masse by women, their tax dollars are still supporting women. So they are getting a raw deal. The problem is women are rejecting the bottom x% of men and instead dogpiling on the top. So the bottom ranks of men are working to support women, but not getting any of the benefits (children, sex). It's no wonder they're bitter. Wouldn't you be?

Sernie___Banders · 2018-06-02T16:06:32+00:00

I've been with women from when I was 16 until I was 36. The longest time I had been without sex was probably 3 weeks at most. I'm far from an incel and I wish I found mgtow sooner.

fuu696 · 2018-06-02T17:04:30+00:00

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Natsume25 · 2018-06-02T21:10:22+00:00

Devil's advocate here.

If the incels just truly understood that the mating game has always been rigged and to just let those expectations of finding happiness in a woman go, they would be like us.

It doesn't matter if a bunch of the MGTOWs can get women or not. Our experiences have reaffirmed in us that cohabitation and marriage is not what we want.

If you can't even get that, it wasn't like you were going to do a lot better, unless you're rich.

I'm poor, but I'm relatively good looking. For me, I don't chase. I'd it doesn't come easy, I don't bother. I will never consider myself an incel but I'm no Chad.

Life is meant to be lived. So live it.

liberator10 · 2018-06-02T15:52:19+00:00

It’s all very fascinating. I never heard these definitions before cling onto a MIGTOW forum.

What about women that can’t get any men ?

sammye00 · 2018-06-02T19:49:17+00:00

Most mgtow aren’t incels at all. I never had trouble getting women. I just realized the cons outweigh the positives in most women

uh_huh_ya_dont_say · 2018-06-02T20:17:20+00:00

Incels dont necessarily see mgtow as incels in disguise, but more like non-chads. If you were good-looking, you wouldn't go MGTOW, because it would be ridiculously easy for you to get sex and good company from women without having to put your finances or anything else on the line. Women treat good-looking men like gods compared to ugly men and you wouldn't need to 'betabux' for them to make them (pretend to) love you. You wouldn't have to put much effort into getting a high quality woman, so walking away from such a good deal wouldn't make much sense.

MountainOfTurds · 2018-06-02T20:26:50+00:00

Who gives a damn if a lot of MGTOW are incel. Tinder and feminism have given even the ugliest of women way more options than average men, leaving a lot of perfectly good men alone to jerk off in the basement with cheetos and porn. Just don't waste your time and money on women. And don't feel sorry for yourself.

The incels have the spiciest, saltiest, darkest, and most hilarious memes.

NotMyWomen · 2018-06-02T21:44:54+00:00

Incels, and all of western society for that matter, believe that the point of life is to appease a female and have sex.

They are just as much a part of society as any other group.

MGTOW posits that the point of life is doing what you love to do, what makes you happy.

We are the self-removed above-caste of society.

DigitalScetis · 2018-06-02T17:10:29+00:00

Incels are neither one of us, nor against us. They have the capacity to go either way, depending on what they do.

migmxke · 2018-06-02T18:10:52+00:00

incels are social retards because they can't get what they want ( pussy in their case).

JeffersonSales · 2018-06-02T21:53:29+00:00

As a virgin dude i honestly don't understand the "incel guys" (even if someone say i'm one of them because i never got laid). I mean, how can someone put sex in such high priotity position in his life to the point of not caring about anything else? Criticizing their own looks, personalities, beliefs, just because they can't get laid is just retarded. Instead of stop complaining and improving themselves in those areas they just bitch about those problems and criticize women expecting the latter to have sex with them. So good i found r/MGTOW before r/braincels .

your_inner_asshole · 2018-06-02T21:55:50+00:00

We're just fed up with women and the system which gives them so much power over us should we be foolish enough to engage in relationshits with them. I don't really know what the incel story is, though I assume them to be bitter because they can't attract the attention of women? I'd consider that a blessing, considering that 99% of women are whores these days. At least they don't have to worry about ever getting HPV-induced throat cancer because they ate some rotten pussy.....alcohol, I love ya and I hate ya.

nosoupforyou · 2018-06-02T23:07:43+00:00

I'm not sure if I'm an incel or not.

My looks aren't the best, but I believe I could get laid if I wanted. I've had some girls show interest in me. I'm just not really capable of trusting anyone enough though. I grew up seeing the bad sides of people. Years before I discovered mgtow, I had been going my own way.

So maybe I'm an incel, but it's not because I'm reviled by women. It's due in part severe distrust, part social anxiety, and part growing up pretty much alone while surrounded by people. It helps that I don't feel a need for human contact. I could happily live alone for years at a time with no one around for miles.

I don't have around women being thirsty, trying to be their friend. Nor do I feel anger towards women.

stringedbeams · 2018-06-03T06:04:26+00:00

I think incels got a bad reputation unjustly, certainly after allegedly a few of them have committed violent crimes (I say allegedly because I never know what's really going on with these crimes)

Incels was always a thing but it didn't have a name and it wasn't as dramatic until recently I think. I have also been enjoying some of their stuff. Made me think of if I am an incel or not, I think ultimately I'm a vocel (voluntarily celibate - also they seemed to spell it volcel but I remembered it as vocel so I'm going to use that) but incel in that I am kind of unable to get certain quality girls I've wanted but I was also taught to be celibate until marriage (religious) and I'm never married, so vocel again in that respect. I'm somewhere in between but probably more vocel.

One critique of MGTOW I saw a couple incels make is that the MGTOWs who are incel and involuntarily MGTOW are more like men "sent" their own way (MSTOW) than those who willfully choose it (like the different between vocel and incel), but still this is kind of a trivial line that can be blurry as I mentioned above about my conflicted thoughts on if I was incel or vocel. Also a lot of us MGTOWs are in reality just here involuntarily because plantation conditions are unworkable, I don't know if that makes MGTOWs any less MGTOW - maybe a difference of degree, but not kind?

I have been wondering about correlations between money and being incel, because money doesn't solve all problems but women are primarily attracted to money in men and men are attracted to beauty in women: Men seek beauty, women want wealth - Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1561991/Men-seek-beauty-women-want-wealth.html So they may not be able to buy being taller, but could "compensate" for being a "manlet" with more money possibly. I'm not agreeing that they should have to do this, the society is still degenerate in its hypergamy, I'm just saying it can be easier to just make the money rather than lament that the girl won't date the shorter guy unless he makes more money to be more attractive, you know? Just trying to think of what's actually in men's control to improve their conditions and lives. If they're ugly, they could either with plastic surgery or cosmetics make themselves look better or buy coaching on aesthetics - again, not saying they should have to do this, just thinking about what's possible. And if they can't afford these things, again that's my question (is their poverty combined with these bad social conditions today their reason for being incel?).

Being celibate is also a good thing, voluntary or involuntary, so I'm not saying it's a disease to get rid of. Someone can go mentally from incel to vocel if they just learn to embrace being incel for a holy purpose (Christianity praises virginity and celibacy). So some incels can learn to truly cope (and not have false "cope") with something they may not have wanted but that God allowed them to have for whatever reason. I mean, not being celibate is not the highest thing to look forward to in life - actually, the abstainers like on "NoFap" are aware of the "superpowers" people get when they abstain and are celibate. Being celibate can give you energy, time, etc. to focus on other important (and more important oftentimes) things.

I think when people fail or things don't work as they want, people just make it worse for them sometimes, like it's disgusting some of these commentators rub salt in incels' wounds by saying "hurr durr incels aren't ENTITLED to relationships with women!" Uhh, I think they pretty much know that, you're not really helping them improve themselves with a comment like that. They just need to be taught how to improve if they want to, or accept what they are if not. Also they definitely need empathy, sometimes life just isn't pleasant no matter how much you try and failure can happen in spite of one's best efforts. Nothing wrong with being incel, inherently, and it's not due to some kind of failure either necessarily. Hey, at least they didn't become single parents and spawn future criminals (you know the statistics on how children of single mothers have lots of problems) - there are a lot of other dimensions to analyzing the issue of the "incel".

Hmm, I'm not sure what else to say. The best things to me that can come out of the incel community, is that they either help one another to become more attractive and get in good healthy relationships (which would also require working on improving "plantation" conditions), or possibly abandoning relationships and putting total productive focus into some other positive projects.

I definitely think the incels could be something awesome in the future, curious to see how all of this develops. Also incel will probably be on the rise as women's hypergamy amps up

Global_MGTOW · 2018-06-02T20:21:48+00:00

If I played my cards right, I could sleep with 3 different women on the same day, yet I am an involuntary celibate?

WTF are these guys smoking? Life isn't black and white, just because we aren't prostrating ourselves at the feet of gynocentric society, in a rush to get divorce raped doesn't mean we're the same as Incles.

iamlikethewindbaby · 2018-06-02T22:37:22+00:00

Media wants to paint Incels as a terror group because a couple of incels lashed out, but proclaims Islam to the be the religion of peace. That's some real 1984 shit.

To all the Incel reading this, stay angry. I love you little mad bastards.

DongleNocker · 2018-06-03T00:19:22+00:00

INCELS. - they are always cursing god for their awful looks and personalities and have a lot of anger towards women, because they’ve always been rejected.

This is why I always downvote posts when the topic is simply hate for women with not a single thing to do with MGTOW. This sub should be for supporting men choosing to no longer play the rigged feminist game, not hate all women.

Apple-Fritters · 2018-06-03T04:58:47+00:00

Mgtow should extend a hand to any and all incels. I truly sympathize with them, and I believe the best kind of help is through a mgtow life style. They always dismiss it as "cope" or "volcel", which at times might be true, but it'll be to their benefit.

TRU3B0S5 · 2018-06-03T08:03:53+00:00

I’ve never been in an LTR but I have had sex once. Never really had a girlfriend either I’m a young dude (18) and I found all this red pill knowledge 8 months ago-ish. I’m grateful I found this sub I used to just browse Trp and asktrp a lot but this sub suits me better.

VisualRemix · 2018-06-02T20:46:41+00:00

MGTOW = Peaceful non-compliance and enlightenment through self sovereignty and freedom. Usually through limited interaction.

Incels = Angry and frustrated boys that want to shoot up the school because they were rejected. They are still stuck on the plantation.

Big difference.

fuu696 · 2018-06-02T18:25:56+00:00

so you look good and have a great personality ? lol

juankixd · 2018-06-02T22:20:27+00:00

I don't quite get how one gets to be an "Incel" since fucking girls is nothing difficult, you just gotta have something going for you. If you don't have the looks then work hard and get money and get Scorts. If you have the looks then you're all set. But literally fucking women doesn't require any skill at all. If you aren't good socializing, Scorts again. So I don't really understand.

MLDdB · 2018-06-02T22:36:33+00:00

The reason we are mgtow is because we know all too well what roasties are like, for many of us it took abusive and disgusting behavior of several of them to realize, but we've all concluded the same.

blaizken_420 · 2018-06-03T01:43:48+00:00

Incels are ungrateful assholes who don't know how good they have it. Let them rot.

Title	Incels are a funny bunch
Author	DecksDark99
Upvotes	147
Comments	75
Date	June 2, 2018 3:28 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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