one thing I've learned both in my blue pill and red pill days is that women never mean what they say and never say what they mean. so you must keep in eye on their actions 24/7.
so being honest I've been a red piller for over a decade now, of course a real red piller who has woken up from gynocentrism not a fake self proclaimed player like those guys at TRP. but I feel like I been mgtow for five years yet since then I found out about it I literally never heard any women say anything positive about us. both here on reddit and in many other site all you hear is women (both feminists and non feminists) talk about how much of a "weak pathetic losers" we appear to them and what not. the none feminists usually pigeon hole us and feminists together for some reason.
but anyways I dont think it could all be just a coincidence that all women hate us. since they never mean what they say or say what they mean I think they all really love us intensively. I think they just all talk negative about us out of rage for the fact that they know they cant have us and we dont give them permission to control us
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