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[–]sometimes-blunt47 points48 points49 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2022:13-21
If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death.
Oh boy. They didn't mess around in those days.
Imagine if we lived like this today. Almost all women would be gone!
[–]phreshstart[S] 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Almost? I wonder how many girls these days are still virgins when they finish high school. The one in the post clearly wasn't. I also know my ex wasn't. And back in my blue pilled days when I was still friend with some girls, none of them were virgins in high school and I know this because they will brag about it in my face like I should envy them for that.
[–]Shimakaze48 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very few at my school were. Most of the girls in school were total whores, got passed around the chads in school like playing cards. The thirst was so real, even the fat ugly ones were getting fucked five ways from Sunday.
[–]TinysocksB1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I lost my virginity at 19 on my wedding night. Im 26 now, still married, no regertz.
[–]Tyler7892288 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We would be out of stones in one day !
[–]androphilistic7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, if we still did that today, all the girls would be virgins. They would still be sluts and bitches underneath tho, so the only real difference you'd see is that miracle births would become commonplace as hell.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most? No, they'd all be gone. Hopefully society one day remember our ancestors' wisdom and controls women as they should be controlled. Female degeneracy is going to destroy the west if they are not stopped. Women need to be controlled in every way, especially sexually.
[–]Cyborg_Genos2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Almost all women would be gone!
I like this idea.
[–]Cristoff132 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
With "honor killings" it seems they still live like this in parts of the Muslim world.
[–]Onkel_Adolf1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most of our mothers too...so, we would not be here to talk shit.
[–]Dzartovian941 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah the good old days, amen to that.
[–]michael868429 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
People cherry-picking religious texts is as old as religion itself
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
And by cherry picking you mean reading what it actually says? In what context are these passages not as insane as they sound?
[–]michael86841 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What exactly did you think my point was?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Cherry picking means taking portions out of a greater context. That implies there is a greater context.
[–]michael86843 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The bible does not have greater context. It is full of contradictions & to be able to give it context requires individuals to pick & choose what parts of the bible to accept & what to reject. That is the very definition of cherry picking.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree. I could have worded that better. My point was there is NO context you could put these passages in that makes them acceptable.
[–]michael86840 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I completely agree
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No cherry picking means picking sections that agree with your narrative/worldview and disregarding others.
[–]michael86842 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn’t that what I said??
I agree with you each individual part of most religious texts are insane but your first comment seemed to misunderstand the op who was saying that you must choose to take every demand of the bible seriously or none at all. I choose none.
[–]michael86841 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I’m an atheist so I’ve always treated the bible as a work of literature.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
lol it is so easy to hit people over the head with their own bible. In all fairness though, the Old Testament is from Judaism, the Jews wrote it. Then Roman Empire's Constantine tacked it onto his line of New Testament bullshit that he had copied over from ancient Egyptian texts like Book of the Dead minus all the astro-theological information.
[–]somerandomwordss1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Are there any christians that follow the old testament?
[–]gezhendrix13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My guess would be, when it suits them.
[–]kyledontcare3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Not all of the Old Testament is applicable to New Testament Believers in Christ. Further, the New Testament was also written by Jews with the exception of Luke-Acts.
[–]IslandicFreedom3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Another lovely thing about religion. The rules change as society changes.
[–]kyledontcare1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Not necessarily a matter of rules changing but God's plan was fully revealed to people. God declares in the Old Testament, "I the Lord do not change." Lambs and goats are no longer sacrificed because they were imperfect. Instead God provided the sacrifice that would take away the sins of everyone who believed and asked for forgiveness in faith, His Son Christ. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved," is the recurring theme of the New Testament.
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[–]WikiTextBot1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Red-Letter Christians constitute a non-denominational movement within Christianity. Proponents of the movement believe that Christianity, and especially evangelicalism, has been exploited by both right-wing and left-wing political movements and become too partisan and politicized. As a response they endeavor to create an evangelical movement that focuses on the teachings of Jesus Christ, particularly in regard to social issues. The two most prominent figures associated with the movement are Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo.
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[–]ColdStoryBro1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All Christians must follow the old testament as well as the new one. However the general consensus is that the reading styles for each are different. Old testament is far more parable based and tracks the lineage of the bloodline that eventually ends with Jesus in the new testament. New testament is radically different, modern philosophy teaching along with the whole crucifixion and resurrection thing as the focus.
"A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another."
there shouldn't be.
[–]somerandomwordss4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"How to cuck the christians in one easy commandment!"
[–]IslandicFreedom1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is what I've been saying about ISIS all this time. They're the true believers. Now they're considered some terrorist extremist group, meantime all they're doing is following their Quran to the letter.
If Christians did this, how many people do you think would be left on this planet?
[–]somerandomwordss1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably plenty, but maybe not many non-christians.
[–]frikabg7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He made her sick with logic! It seems that women are allergic to logic and react in an aggressive and volatile way to it!
[–]Mac2904 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ha. That passage is not clear. Context matters, which most biblical literalists ignore.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Please... Enlighten me. In what context is stoning a woman to death for this justified?
[–]Mac2901 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What did I say was justified? And I was talking about the first quote.
BUT, the stoning thing is a property rights thing. A man's daughter was considered his property that had value in the form of a dowry. If she was not a virgin, it was considered theft. The context of the times matters. I'm not saying it was right, but it was the way it was.
Religion when you like it eh? Shows women don't really have a firm opinion and believe whatever serves them.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Telling someone "Fuck You!" isn't really Christian either, dumb bitch.
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[–]vanillabeen1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The blue-text person has incorrectly summarised the verses.
The original context was action taken by a new bride's parents to defend her against the new groom slandering her for not being a virgin, when she actually was.
Obviously the parents of the bride would not take this action if they were uncertain of their daughter's virginity upon marriage.
The background assumption is that a woman should be a virgin upon marriage.
I would suggest the law was not often used, but sat in the background to provide the correct moral tone for female conduct prior to marriage, and to discourage grooms from bad-mouthing their brides unless they were really sure.
13 If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” 15 then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. 16 Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels[a] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.
20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOOOOL!
[–]hackableyou1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This shows a lack of understanding of Christianity from both sides.
when you tell a blue pill the truth and you make him sick
This is gold!
[–]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wtf I love the bible now?!
[–]Qazwsxedcrfv5678991 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry in the upcoming western Muslim empire these traditions will come back.
[–]feedmecarrots1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do have a problem with this. It has no provision for honorable widows to remarry. As for present day mores, if we have too deal with dragons, we are in a bad way.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gay marriage is a pile of trash too though.
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