Stand Tall Making Eye Contact

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December 10, 2020
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Tl;Dr:

Chest out, shoulders back. Head up, making eye contact with anything ahead.

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You ever come home to a garbage can tipped over, the bag tore open and trash covering the floor. Then there's the dog. Sitting in the corner. Pouting, looking at the ground, not just avoiding eye contact but avoiding your image all together. Are you a bad dog? Did you do something wrong? Then why are you always looking at the ground and why can you never maintain eye contact?

Do you check out women?

Yes I'm checking women out. Checking out the men to but not so sexually. If you see a pretty little thing dressed like a tramp you're going to take a look. When she catches you looking at her body, do not look away in shame like you just got caught doing something disrespectful. Embrace her eye contact, let her know you see her.

When anyone enters your view of sight it's instinctive to observe the new creatue. Lesser Animals do it. It's an evolutionarily survival trait to be observant of your surroundings. Don't feel shameful when checking out women. It's in human DNA. What culture has hyperinflated into an exaggerated attempt to shame men for what comes natural, are a few instances of overly creepy men staring, following them around the venue, either physically or with their eyes the entire night. Even still if you read romance novels, which I recommend you not, I could feel his eyes following me the entire night of the event, it made me burn hot knowing he was watching my every move. Goes to show you; they want it, just not from losers.

Check her out. If she catches you, own up to it. Acknowledge what you are doing. If you're really that interest, nows the time to approach. Otherwise leave her be but don't run from her eye contact. Worst she's going to do is give you a look of disgust, tap her friend on the shoulder and point. I've even had ghetto bitche yell What the fuck you starrin at, whitey? We all laughed about it.

Eye contact is a lot more important than women. Like I said I'm checking out the men in my surroundings too. I'm taking a good look, drinking in their persona with my eyes. If they catch me, there's been less than a dozen instances in fifteen plus years were it didn't end with a smile. That's it. The vast majority of the time, a head nod and a smile is it. Sometimes there is a verbal hello, old timers love to stop you for a chat. If you become a regular at the same locations, a little eye conact and a smile can open the door for conversation.

Eye contact goes further with repeat encounters than strangers but that's a good place to start. Eye contact is a huge part of good communication. It helps form trust, looking into someone's eyes while talking. Feeling intimated by it at first? Stare at their nose or eyebrows to help. Leaning into the discomfort will build a tolerance, eventually making the behavior normal. Trust me it's a lot harder to make too much eye contact than not enough.

Now there are a good number of people who avoid my eye contact. There's others reasons than this but the vast majority of men I see in public look defeated. Shoulders slouched. Head hanging low. If they're not avoiding my eye contact, they never had a chance to make it. They're staring at the ground in front of their feet for their entire lives. Walking around oblivious to their surrounding.

Imagine that's your first impression, the look of defeat. It's a heck of a lot easier to maintain eye contact when your heads already lifted. Stand up straight, looking ahead. Bring your chest up, shoulders over your hips, over your ankles when you walk. That's where you start. Past that is an individual personalized remedy to actually straight your spine and fix your pelvic tilt. I'm not a doctor but we can all start here. Posture check yourself throughout the day.

Either when you're sitting or standing, check yourself through out the day to see if you're slouching or hunced over. Straighten up, bringing your chest up and shoulders back. Sitting or standing tall, erecting the spine. Hold it for as long as you can. I'm not kidding when I say some of you will have a sore core, shoulders, lower or upper backs. You might have to actively engage your core. After time and time again of posture checking yourself you'll see you're standing/sitting straight more and more often.

Good posture makes a world of difference with how you're received by everyone. That's why it's Jordan Peterson first rule in his book: Twelve Rules for Life. Stand up straight with your shoulders back. That's not an edorsment to go read his book, though I'm sure it's great, I've never read it. You don't need to be a professor of psychology to realize this. Be observant.

Having doubts? Go to any large venue and scope out the public. See how poor the populations posture is. See how grossly out of shape most people are. Watch them avoid eye contact and each other, some literally scared of interactions with strangers. Decide, do you really want to walk around looking like that? You'll notice a few men though, walking around tall, proud, sure of themselves. Gazing around, happly waiting to greet you. Much like my dog, owning his behaviors, confidently exclaiming, yes I knocked down that garbage can, wanna see me do it again. You do the same.

In Conclusion:

Eye contact is king, it's easier to maintain if you're already standing up straight. Standing up straight, having good posture makes you appear more confident to the world. Start posture checking yourself regularly to get in the habbit of maintaining good posture whether sitting or standing. If you're nervous about eye contract, look at their nose or eyebrows. They won't be able tell. If you get caught checking out a woman (or anybody for that matter) give them a nod, do something to own up to your actions. Don't dart your eyes away like scared puppy.


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Title Stand Tall Making Eye Contact
Author King_dom_cum
Upvotes 685
Comments 44
Date 10 December 2020 06:00 PM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/581389
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[–]BarcaLiverpool170 points171 points  (0 children) | Copy

We need more post like these.

A lot of people get developmentally stunted throughout their childhood and fail to develop socially. They either forget or never learn basic social cues and how to behave in public settings.

There is nothing wrong with this but it’s important to learn universal behaviors.

Your post is solid OP

[–]strikethrough12329 points30 points  (6 children) | Copy

Barbell rows and deadlifts help immensely with posture. After a while you’ll find it almost impossible to slouch.

[–]King_dom_cum[S] 14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

Swear to gods I'm two inches taller after deadlifting.

[–]dynospectrum711 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not to be a dick, but you’re actually shorter after heavy deads. Do a few pull ups or dead hangs to decompress that spine. You may even feel it crack sometimes.

[–]BloodSurgery5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I doubt he means in the moment, but aftwrwards lol

[–]Jovan10001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shorter? As in how long lol

[–]o0perfect0o4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got injured this year and wasn't able to work out, and then wondered why my posture went mildy to shit. Went back in and did rows and bam, magic.

[–]Travex-80 points81 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good post, universally useful advice 👍

[–]Endorsed ContributorForeverKarlMalone39 points40 points  (2 children) | Copy

100% correct, this guy gets it.

First thing women notice when they see a guy is Height, then Race.

Then before you even open your mouth, eye contact and body language.

In my opinion, a lot of blackpillers have at least tried cold approach before, but it just went poorly for them. No results and one word answers from girls giving them go away vibes

They come to the wrong, but logical conclusion based on what they know that they're just not good looking enough to succeed...

When a simple body language and eye contact fix is sometimes all that's needed in order to have positive reactions from girls.

Social Skills are incredibly nuanced and while height and appearance is the first thing people notice, there's so much more than just plain looks and that's why it's so important to invest time learning optimal body language and eye contact

[–]henry58929 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

Height and race is fixed there’s no point dwelling over it tbh.

[–]chiefbeefboi37 points38 points  (2 children) | Copy

Great advice. I love that internal spark I feel after locking eyes with a beautiful woman and her subtle reaction when I sustain that eye contact and maybe throw in a little smile. Feel like fucking man among boys when they blush or begin staring back at me. Sometime I wonder if I stare at women too long, but I can't help it. I adore femininity.

Took a real long time to gain this level of resolute confidence and self esteem though, would've loved to have had it when I was younger. Seize the day boiz

[–]King_dom_cum[S] 33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sometime I wonder if I stare at women too long, but I can't help it. I adore femininity.

You fucking romantic. Lmao

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (1 child) | Copy

When she catches you looking at her body, do not look away in shame like you just got caught doing something disrespectful. Embrace her eye contact, let her know you see her.

I did this all the time back when I was in school.

I'd smirk and look them up and down.

They usually giggle, smile lustfully or do the same back.

I even had girls that when they'd walk by stare at my crotch and smile at me.

It's crazy what eye contact can do.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Let me phrase this a difference way.

The emotion known as "confidence" is "the feeling you project when you know you can kick somebody's ass."

In our evolutionary history, power, money, and status all came from the alpha's ability to beat the fuck out of people, so it is that underlying emotion that women look for in men. Women's lizard brain can "sense" a man who knows he can fuck up the other guy. A man who interacts with others like he is afraid of getting his ass kicked is not attractive.

Imagine you were going to kick somebody's ass (and you knew you could). How would you act? Well, you would speak firmly and make firm, unwavering eye contact. You wouldn't let anxiety or fear change your behavior. You would speak in short, curt sentences without meandering or getting distracted. You would make your point clearly, forcefully, and without apology. You would act like that conversation was the most important thing in the world and it MUST get resolved in your favor.

At the same time, when you are 100% sure you can kick somebody's ass you act calmly and with joy, because you are not afraid of anything going wrong. Only insecure people who are afraid of losing flip out, yell, or act like a "tough guy." Amused mastery is when a UFC fighter is being threatened by a random dork at a bar and is laughing about it to his friends.

Of course, you shouldn't actually threaten to kick anybody's ass, especially women, nor should you project overtly aggressive or hostile vibes. You also should not scare or intimidate anybody. But the underlying emotion that women are attracted to is the same as the underlying emotion a man expresses when he knows he can kick another guy's ass: confidence.

[–]revrev44059 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly I look at a lot of dudes too especially if they’re jacked cuz I got mad respect

[–]darkskinx12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

u feel so confidemt once u get used to discomfort

[–]Schhwing6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

So true. Eye contact is like the social grease that keeps yourself and the group flowing. When alone it’s good to look inside and introspect but when in a group situation it is vital to get out of yourself and join the social dance. At that is a dance primarily of the eyes.

[–]Zech4riah5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you get caught checking out a woman (or anybody for that matter) give them a nod, do something to own up to your actions. Don't dart your eyes away like scared puppy.

This should be the first step to internalize and learn when you start learning game. Before you can do this, it's quite useless to even start man-to-woman interactions verbally. Even platonic conversations with women tend to be easier for submissive betas.

Intense dominant eye contact sets the premise of conversation right away. She knows right away that this is a man and a woman interacting - not just some platonic friends.

[–]zdbkn5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

These are the kinds of post we need. More of this and less about being victimized by feminism.

[–]Coolieo66086 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

First thing I saw when I found this subreddit was a big warning about "offensive and inflammatory material and discussion" on the sub and the very first post I look at is this. Fantastic advice with tips on how to implement it easily. Started checking my own posture when I go out. Every single time I did and started walking with my head held high and my back straight etc., I immediately felt more confident. Shit's real.

[–]dirks742 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I look at the space between the eyes. It is an old sales trick.

[–]inbredostrptw4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good post. One of the few I’ve seen recently that emphasized posture.

It is crazy what good posture will do for you. It makes your presence more dominant whether youre aware of it or not, it aids in eye contact, it helps you to relax, etc.

You can’t just lift to fix your posture. You need to research, figure out your own muscle imbalances, and actively correct them.

There are a lot of resources

[–]Marmalade_Knight4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

A+ content, sir.

We need more posts like this and less "how to get laid with any instagram thot" ones

[–]spartanblood11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think why most people don't create eye contact is the fear of rejection, or feel like someone is going to judge them. Remember no one will fight you for smiling with eye contact.

[–]KinkyPinkHighTeck0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good shit man, needed this.

[–]pieredforlife0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

great article. agree with most of the ideas put across. thanks for writing this op

[–]jgjsajgio38158819n980 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Like I said I'm checking out the men in my surroundings too. I'm taking a good look, drinking in their persona with my eyes. If they catch me, there's been less than a dozen instances in fifteen plus years were it didn’t end with a smile. That’s it. The vast majority of the time, a head nod and a smile is it.

could you elaborate on this bit? are those the only responses once they lock eyes, or is it cool to also just look away and keep scanning for the next thing? i imagine nodding/smiling at everyone (at least those that meet your eyes) would get tiring especially if you encounter hundreds of people daily if you’re just out in the city. i find i don’t have trouble making eye contact but rather keeping it or doing the next “appropriate” thing. pardon the slightly autistic question but i suppose i wouldn’t need to ask it otherwise lol

[–]trp123692 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why are there 3 of the same posts from 3 different guys*?

[–]King_dom_cum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good catch, I replied to one and have a post in the works that is semi a response to this question as it forced me to take not of what naturally occurs for me.

[–]LightenedOats0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Like I said I'm checking out the men in my surroundings too. I'm taking a good look, drinking in their persona with my eyes. If they catch me, there's been less than a dozen instances in fifteen plus years were it didn’t end with a smile. That’s it. The vast majority of the time, a head nod and a smile is it.

could you elaborate on this bit? are those the only responses once they lock eyes, or is it cool to also just look away and keep scanning for the next thing? i imagine nodding/smiling at everyone (at least those that meet your eyes) would get tiring especially if you encounter hundreds of people daily if you’re just out in the city. i find i don’t have trouble making eye contact but rather keeping it or doing the next “appropriate” thing. pardon the slightly autistic question but i suppose i wouldn’t need to ask it otherwise lol

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[–]King_dom_cum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

pardon the slightly autistic question but i suppose i wouldn’t need to ask it otherwise lol

Don't appologies for attempting to understand.

Basically if i lock eyes with someone, I'm not looking away. If they maintain eye contact long enough for acknowledgment they'll get a head nod. Most people won't lock eyes, those that do look away in the first three seconds.

How long is long enough is situational. You'll need to figure out what works for you and the individuals you're interacting with.

[–]usedtimecapsule0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Love this, it’s basic but very important. I don’t think I slouch all the time, but I’m going to make sure now to posture check.

Eye contact is an alpha move, I like it.

[–]JoesIcedTea0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It cant be wrong to intentionally avert your eyes ones and a while, so as not to disrupt social norms whilst in a interaction right? Too much could come across as intimidating, or something else no?

[–]Fummy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this shit only works for giga chads

[–]tulip_problems-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is a genuinely terrifying post. Plz don’t do that. Idk one female would would feel comfortable with a guy doing that to them. It’s creepy, scary and demoralizing.

[–]Yodoggiedawg2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look, I'm gonna be honest with you. You are 17 or 18 and a reddit feminist. This advice isn't gonna apply to men going after you; chads don't want you.

Also, don't project. Just because you feel it might be uncomfortable doesn't mean that applies to everyone.



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