Overdoing is bad

Entropy-7 · 2016-05-11T17:54:03+00:00

It's economics: law of diminishing returns. There will come a point where there is something better to do with your time - something that will give you more value and happiness - than simply doubling down yet again on some goal or activity that is first in your mind.

SilentDeadlyKiller · 2016-05-12T02:57:39+00:00

Devil's Advocate:

"Anything worth doing is worth overdoing; moderation is for cowards" -from Marcus Luttrell's book, Lone Survivor

SEAL mentality, expressed in their informal creed. There are times when overdoing is necessary. Those of us here looking to do extraordinary things need to put in an extraordinary amount of work and training, however that manifests itself, in order to achieve our goals.

For the rest of life, ESPECIALLY with women, I agree wholeheartedly with OP. Don't put in too much effort, and if you must, make sure no one can tell. There is nothing worse than looking like a tryhard. And for the more mundane aspects of life, the 80/20 rule is always in effect.

But for your mission as a man, it's ok to overdo things. You shouldn't be telling anyone about your struggle, so you can overdo as much as you want privately to achieve your goals. Because if you're trying to make it as an actor, or a bodybuilder, or join the Ranger Regiment or become a SEAL, overdoing things is the only way you'll get anywhere.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-05-11T21:33:37+00:00

Remember the Betas? They overdo, They would do almost anything for girl.

The expression for this is to be a "try hard".

TryDoingSomethingNew · 2016-05-11T21:13:52+00:00

I like your post. Short and to the point, with example(s).

You're right. Sometimes honestly, a man is much better off just going home rather than blowing his money, time, and effort on a lost cause woman.

...and learning to not care is a boost in that direction. The less you really care, the less likely you are to be willing to do such things.

Corndog_Enthusiast · 2016-05-12T01:15:53+00:00

Law 47 from Robert Greene's The 48 Laws of Power:

DO NOT GO PAST THE MARK YOU AIMED FOR; IN VICTORY, LEARN WHEN TO STOP

The moment of victory is often the moment of greatest peril. In the heat of victory, arrogance and overconfidence can push you past the goal you aimed for, and by going too far, you make more enemies than you defeat. Do not allow success to go to your head. There is no substitute for strategy and careful planning. Set a goal, and when you reach it, stop.

A great read for all RP Men.

krsna119 · 2016-05-12T08:40:30+00:00

As a beta trying to learn how to not be so bad at this stuff, what if this is so ingrained into you it just comes naturally?

As an example, many people would consider what I did for my ex super overdone or try hard. But for me it was simply what I wanted to do. She wanted to go to the beach? Cool me too. She wanted to go get food? Doesn't sound too bad, I wanted to check that place out as well. I wanted to serve her, but I personally didn't feel burdened or stressed by it. Hell, even looking back I still think it was a good time.

Looking back at it, I understand what I did wrong and I hope I don't make the mistake in the future but it just comes so naturally. I want to please them, it doesn't FEEL like I'm exerting myself because doing that kind of stuff honestly makes me happy.

Which honestly just makes it conflicting and confusing. But ultimately I know now (I didn't then) that women don't want to be served like that. As frustrating as it is (because I honestly enjoy being a people pleaser, especially for a partner) I guess I simply can't.

Is there some trick to shaking these feelings?

[deleted] · 2016-05-12T00:32:30+00:00

In other words (Correct me if I'm wrong OP) subscribe to a life of quality over quantity in everything you do.
This is a concept most of us new to TRP underestimate, over thinking to the point of analysis paralysis. (If you are digging a hole stop)
My belief is most are conditioned to fear doing the logical and obvious a la Occam's Razor or to put it in another way a fear of doing a 180 because of the perceived sunk cost/emotional attachment.
Personal example here regarding women: reading into everything instead of intuitively going for the kill, ignoring red flags etc.
Succinct post OP, a welcome reminder.

jimjam80 · 2016-05-11T23:37:24+00:00

I took a girl out for drinks a night last week and then out on a boat over the weekend. It seemed promising after the night of drinking, but on the boat day I realized that she viewed me as an endless resource of fun things for free for which nothing would be required of her in return. I knew I was breaking all the rules by providing too much, but since I was going to be boating by myself that day just for practice anyway, it was actually better to have a hot chick with huge tits in a bikini on the boat. She started getting more and more cunty as she got drunk and then bailed on me later that night (I recognize that I didn't build enough attraction for her to fuck me . . . just not there yet). I saw it coming (she did not offer up a single IOI all day), accepted it, and simply ignored her texts after she left. She only texted to keep a conversation going in hopes of getting more free shit. So, yeah . . . I provided way too much and got nothing in return. But at least I knew to cut it off . . . pre TRP, I would have likely employed the 'sunk cost' fallicy and tried one more time, and I'm pretty sure she was banking on that happening. Now she's texting me that she wants her scarf back that she left behind. So the thanks I got for a night of drinks and a day of boating is to be pestered to return her fucking scarf.

Title	Overdoing is bad
Author	syneiix
Upvotes	32
Comments	11
Date	May 11, 2016 5:29 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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DO NOT GO PAST THE MARK YOU AIMED FOR; IN VICTORY, LEARN WHEN TO STOP