FR: How TRP rescued my relationship with my mother.

RP15 · 2016-07-01T15:52:17+00:00

Dude...this is an excellently written piece that artfully describes the evolution of late boyhood/adolescence to the first light of manhood. Excellent work.

My relationship with my mother was very similar to this but toned down a few degrees. It followed this exact pattern but a few years ago.

Might sound odd coming from a total stranger on the Internet, but I'm proud of you man.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-07-01T14:42:50+00:00

But the more I observed her, the more I saw that her behavior was consistent with that of a 15 year old girl. She never grew up. She's never progressed past the stage of maturity that was required of her.

Women don't actually "improve" like men do where we gain an objective self awareness.

I like to say women ride the:

Hamster Wheel of Subjective Happiness and Progress

...and that means in her mind she has progressed only she can't put her finger on how but that all she knows is the past is a "terrible thing" and things are only happy now because she "evolved" to be a better person.

The entire mental functioning of women is to go deeper and deeper into a mythical dreamworld.

Imagine a lifetime of going to sleep... that is the female mind.

And this is why you can't confront a woman with truth. Truth is like returning to the past and having to look at it honestly. But women want to escape their past and avoid blame. They run like crazy on the hamster wheel to rationalize everything away.

Holding Frame is simply acknowleging that a woman can't be "fixed" or made awake.

Enlightenment is an alien concept to women because they prefer sleeping... the unconscious life.

Truth is Hate

...in our age to speak the truth is to trigger someone.

drew967 · 2016-07-01T16:49:46+00:00

"do whatever she said unquestioningly". Too bad my own dad said the same thing to an extent about how to do well in jobs. Now Im all for following orders to get the job done, but when your boss gives a "weird" job to you cant you question it?

Ive only ever had experience in the service industry as a waiter so obviously my job role was clean and cut, but for TRPer's out in the corporate world is that really how you succeed? If you follow every order unquestioningly will your boss look at you and think "Thats a damn good worker I think I should promote them"?

quartermanpete · 2016-07-01T16:36:22+00:00

I started realizing AWALT, even your mother, this summer when my mom got offered a chance to take a free online class from her employer. This was a basic, wicked basic, 100 level course that she would constantly bitch and moan over. The same way all the hoes at my school are constantly complaining about how difficult their work is.

AWALT, even your mother

p00pey · 2016-07-01T15:38:49+00:00

This isn't about AWALT or women need to be led or whatever dude. This is about a woman with serious mental illness. I learned a lot from my crazy mom's behavior too, once I realized she was batshit crazy and I couldn't use logic with her. But that only gave me a small insight into women. You can't take a BPD or worse human being, and seems yours is really off the deep end, and say AWALT. Or else you're basically saying you expect to be smacked around by every woman you encounter...

also, the spitting and shit dude...that's not holding frame, in any sense. You need to get away from your mom and never look back. And you need to clean yourself up from the damage she's done.

Thaweed · 2016-07-01T19:25:08+00:00

Noooo, why did he delete it?

i have only read 2/3 of it

BluepillProfessor · 2016-07-01T17:09:51+00:00

I just told my mom to fuck off because I was not putting up with her bullshit any more. She became hysterical, crying how I "abused" her. There was no spitting in the face, just the back of me as I walked out the door. We have not spoken in almost 3 years. I suppose if I contacted her I could smooth it over but I have no desire to see her ever again. She is dead to me and when she passes I will bring the nasty letters she wrote me to her funeral so the family can read them and reminisce.

circlhat · 2016-07-01T16:15:42+00:00

My dad was a soft man, or from what I can remember, the kind that wouldn't get into arguments with people, that would bend over and accept it. I hate, hate, hate that I am talking about him in this way. I wish that I could look back on him with fondness

This is toxic masculinity

But count yourself lucky, betas aren't bad, having 2 crazy alpha's is not good, because you will get your ass whipped and not like the wwe I'm talking real shit, broken bodies,teeth, bruises, and always keeping your mouth shut around neighbors.

He simply didn't have much of a choice or a option, a beta who tries to be alpha is instant abuser , she would have eaten him alive with ease and everyone would of supported her.

Sadly abused men often get the treatment you are so keen to give

AceofRains · 2016-07-01T17:13:17+00:00

Damn. Amazing OP. I openly discuss TRP with my mom. Even though she doesn't try to speak back with me in logic, she always boils down to "What ever made you change I'm happy you found it." These days I'm the one to give her advice, and I let her know that her advice for me is unwarranted and unnecessary. She's been having to put up with some crazy bitch calling her phone because she thinks she has something going on with her business client. I told her go to HR, and make sure you let them know what's going on, because women don't fight fair, she'll go after your job and your social life. Mom went straight to HR and thanked me for it. TRP overall fixed my relationship with my mother, but it wasn't particularly this forum, as this is only the tool box. It was the steps I took as an independent man and implementing the tools at every corner to attain rapid success.

dareealmvp · 2016-07-01T17:32:24+00:00

honestly, after reading so many posts on the red pill about how shitty women can be, I've been lately starting to wonder, why the hell are we even dating women? Why the hell aren't we switching to prostitutes? Is it just the STD's (even though it's highly debatable if today's women carry any less STD's than prostitutes)? I only believe in pump-n-dumps but even so I'm lately starting to question my own belief about this.

At least with prostitutes there wouldn't be any shit tests and crazy drama, not to mention she would be professional and really good at pleasing her customer.

SmilingWatermelon · 2016-07-01T17:55:16+00:00

Damn..coming from a traditional house hold, reading that you spat in your mothers face made me shudder..but shit. Good for you.

Better than getting violent. You improved your life, and now she is happier for it. You as well.

Now that you command things she will always be looking to you for guidance. I hope you have been lifting to get the skinny nerd look off ya, that'll definitely help as well.

Good luck brother.

2016-07-03T01:46:33+00:00

Deleted... Did she find out?

Man_from_Poland · 2016-07-01T18:18:51+00:00

You must understand that No All Women Are Like That!!! You all there have bad experience with women but we must believe.. What a bosh! We must ACCEPT that in something places of earth are different women with controled they emotions, take responsibility of they mistakes etc. People is so different in all respects so women must be defferent too. Simple math! In biology ALWAYS is exceptions of norm. Biology is not math with 0-1 system fuck!

Title	FR: How TRP rescued my relationship with my mother.
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Date	July 1, 2016 2:29 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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