The Daily Mail Joins the MGTOW Marketing/Shaming Team: "MGTOWs are Kissless Virgins, Homophobes, Alt-Righters, and Did We Mention They Are Anti-Feminist?"

Jcart105 · 2016-09-28T13:38:03+00:00

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justiceavenger · 2016-09-28T13:09:45+00:00

Where does this "never having sex again" come from? Getting married means never having sex again too.

GC0W30 · 2016-09-28T13:08:51+00:00

Ooboy, another one! As I wrote in this thread, and the thread before that, always google the author.

Valerie Siebert - Picture 1, Picture 2

Another freelance feminist "journalist" getting paid pennies per word to spew bullshit online.

Also, A fatty wearing a corset in order to make herself appear thinner, as seen in picture 1.

Mgtowredpillonroids · 2016-09-28T14:05:25+00:00

I've never seen ANYBODY within MGTOW say anything negative about homosexuals not one fucking time, where are these people coming up with this shit? Salty ass feminists mad because men would rather jack off to porn than fuck her fat ass.

Saintmyname · 2016-09-28T13:30:30+00:00

How come none of these articles mention child support, alimony, custody or divorce law? They always make it sound like MGTOW is just a bunch of guys who woke up one day and just decided to be mean to girls.

Signed_up_today · 2016-09-28T13:55:33+00:00

Bad publicity is still publicity, I'm happy for the article else I wouldn't have found this subreddit.

Darth_Bicycle · 2016-09-28T14:55:25+00:00

Well, like I have said before; I' a MGTOW monk myself. Works for me personally. What others do with their lives, is their business. But anyway; I wonder if these women call Buddhist Monks ”Kissless virgins” as well. That's how little sense articles like these make to me.

But this article is also sad commentary on the modern female; She has nothing else to offer to a man than sex. That's why they have to push it all the time. ”You're a man! You have to want the sex that women are offering! ” But I ask myself; ”Why? When I can go without.”

It's exactly what the last woman I was with did; As soon as she figured out I wasn't interested in her, she started offering sex like there was no tomorrow. I suppose there really was no tomorrow for us, come to think of it.

It's high time that women went and sought happiness on their own. It's not man's duty to give it to them. Everyone is responsible for their own happiness. For me that means no women. What happiness means to a woman, that's up to them to figure out. I am not responsible for them.

freethinker1976 · 2016-09-28T13:46:44+00:00

I've fucked hundreds of women and at this point in life i'd rather ejaculate in to a basket than to sleep with women the likes of the author of that article. Women just can't handle that we don't give a shit about them.

2016-09-28T13:13:08+00:00

I ask again. Why does anybody care?

2016-09-28T15:04:16+00:00

I love how GASP anti-feminist is listed as the worst of the bunch. Like who on earth could be opposed to fighting the patriarchy.

One of these "journalists" got in contact a few months ago to ask me questions. It only took a few before she realized I was a perfectly normal person who wasn't going to spew hatred in any of my answers, the interview was cut short.

byers18901 · 2016-09-28T15:36:42+00:00

Another vapid article that amounts to nothing but word vomit.

2016-09-28T16:26:04+00:00

The comments are hilarious! MGTOWs and disillusioned men coming out with structured reasoned posts and white knights posturing on behalf of their female masters trying to belittle and feminists out and out being confrontational and abusive.
It just shows how blinkered, brainwashed and skewed society really is.
We just want to be left the fuck alone and they cant grasp that concept. "How dare you not let us treat you like shit you shit"

Sargon16 · 2016-09-28T13:37:37+00:00

I have precious few fucks to give, and certainly none for what some random 'journalist' thinks.

A core element of my lifestyle is not giving a fuck what other people think about it.

2016-09-28T13:00:55+00:00

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nexus974 · 2016-09-28T15:47:46+00:00

It's to be expected. No fucks are given.

There is an awful lot of smack talk on this sub. It's only natural for editorial writers to make some sort of poorly researched response. Their readers don't give a shit either. ;-)

Please, write about all sorts of MGTOW or 'meninist' bullshit as it pleases the click-bait feminazi audience.

I'll continue to enjoy my life and wealth without the dramatic disruptive needy vindictive influence of women. My retirement savings and assets will remain secure. My earning power won't be sunk into supporting irresponsible females or children. I won't be personally slandered by false allegations.

Here's a giant yawn for online exposés about MGTOW.

KamiMoon · 2016-09-28T16:08:36+00:00

These articles only increase our numbers. Keep em coming imo!

methylotroph · 2016-09-28T15:00:06+00:00

Shame me all you want, I don't care, why should I care? Once one goes MGTOW one gives not fucks about being respect or liked by women.

PM_YOUR_TRIGGERS · 2016-09-28T15:27:43+00:00

This is basically a copy of that other article the other day, almost word for word.

2016-09-28T14:58:54+00:00

Yo Valerie...I was married, have 3 kids (one with a different chick other than my ex-wife that I paid for, for 18 years) and am happily divorced. I say happily because it's great watching her try to navigate life now that she's "free" again, but running across guys like me who are sick of all the bullshit that women bring now.

2016-09-28T15:27:49+00:00

I was wondering when the Daily Fail would get in on the baiting.

rat-biker · 2016-09-28T17:21:54+00:00

Part of my MGTOW enlightenment has freed me from the desire in reading rubbish of the media spewed from the likes of the Daily Mail. So when I see this sort of crap, (thanks to this thread) it is a good reminder of what I am missing from my BP/Cuck days ..... absolutely nothing.

For the record (and the lurkers here) I do not hate women just choose to avoid all the maintenance.

New_Banana_Republic · 2016-09-28T17:14:48+00:00

Yo Daily Mail.

If you read this: U MAD BRAH?

lostapwbm · 2016-09-28T12:52:18+00:00

Men who have sworn to never sleep with another woman after deciding that men are victims in relationships have their own online society.

MGTOW, or Men Going Their Own Way, is an online movement that has attracted thousands of anti-feminist men who have decided that women are more trouble than they are worth and, in fact, are holding men back from reaching their potential.

And happiness. They are holding men back from their happiness too. Don't forget that part.

Scouring the community's Reddit thread, which has over 15,000 subscribers, and the MGTOW.com web forums, readers can find topics being discussed that include everything from the 'craziest women you have ever dated' to 'why women are getting fatter'.

That's 15,684, ma'am. Up over 150 in 24 hours after the Independent article. Glad to see our marketing team working hard to create buzz.

The men subscribing to the ethos of the movement believe that they are fighting for male sovereignty against women who would would otherwise treat them 'like a disposable utility'.

Despite the movement's championing of bravery-as-masculinity, it hides the identity of its founder or founders by claiming its history is too convoluted and goes back too far to document, and even compares its rise to the discovery of fire, adding that 'perhaps feminism is gasoline'.

MGTOW really has no founders. It might have advocates and exemplars who come and go, but there is no one calling shots.

In fact, the members of the community do not see feminism as a movement for equality, but rather something that infringes on the rights of men.

Feminist "equality" is the same "equality" they were selling back in the days when Plessy v. Ferguson was still good law.

Users in the forums rage against 'career women' but also spew bilious prose about women they perceive to be 'gold-diggers'. Men brag about dumping women who proved themselves to be 'feminazis' but also about fooling their past sexual conquests. Some of the topics boast such titles as 'The state exists only to transfer your money to women' and 'The “Domestic Abuse” machine as an apparatus for men’s enslavement'.

Repeat after me: Under the Duluth Model, somebody's going to jail, and usually, it's the man.

However, quite ironically, despite their hatred of women, the MGTOW are also against homosexuality - with many users blaming gay men's sexuality on feminism.

LOLWUT?

General_Fear · 2016-09-28T21:19:36+00:00

Feminist trying to stop MGTOW is like soldiers trying to fight an unseen enemy in the jungle. My mind always goes back to this movie scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ-EOg38t1o

DigitalDegenerate · 2016-09-28T15:49:17+00:00

"Alt-right" Valerie Siebert is still asshurt from having her dysgenic degenerate shitlib existence handed to her on twitter by people like Ricky Vaughn, Jared Taylor Swift, etc.

I doubt the majority of alt-right people I follow are even MGTOW, if anything they're more tradcons and they scoff when they hear the term.

feedmecarrots · 2016-09-28T17:11:06+00:00

Stuff like this may help our cause. More skeptical readers will check us out and may even like us. And, there is another silver lining, MGOW is making them nervous.

edwardkane3000 · 2016-09-28T17:32:53+00:00

Corset wearing mother fuckers should never be taken serious.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-09-28T17:59:50+00:00

Don't tell my kids that I'm a virgin.

Jcart105 · 2016-09-28T18:09:12+00:00

Thanks for the free-advertising DM, you've just made more men discover truth.

bsutansalt · 2016-09-28T18:34:13+00:00

My recent comment:

When women bemoan "where have all the good men gone?", now you know.

Women as a whole are driving men out of the dating game in various ways, but the most egregious example is the ruinous outcome of divorce, which many men have either experienced firsthand, or have witnessed through friends and/or family.

It's not bitter or spiteful to say "no thanks", but a logical choice. Furthermore, for many men this isn't even a conscious decision. Millions of men are MGTOW without even realizing it or even knowing what the term means. In a generation past many would know it by another term: "Going Galt".

tl;dr - The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Azrael-sama · 2016-09-29T02:02:59+00:00

What in God's name is the point of this "article" supposed to be? I wasted two minutes of my time reading it carefully and did not find anything even slightly resembling a point.

Sixteen short paragraphs of rambling about MGTOWs being this or that. It reads like an extremely biased Wikipedia page with no sources (a link to the front page of this subreddit or mgtow.com is NOT a proper citation!) just randomly thrown into a newspaper, and not an informative news article nor a well-written and purposeful op-ed.

Why does the author even care if MGTOW exist or not? Why is it such a huge crime for men to not want anything to do with women? Mainstream news publications don't put out ridiculous hit-pieces against all the women that swear off and hate men, for fuck's sake, and that is literally the same exact thing to anyone whose brain hasn't been rotted out by a gender studies course. And that a group may exist that hates the opposite sex is hardly newsworthy. I mean... so what? The way these people speak of MGTOW "hating women", it's like they're expecting a wave of hate crimes on the level of Jack the Ripper disemboweling hookers or some shit, instead of some faceless guys venting their frustrations online. Just get the fuck over us and go do something productive or enjoyable with your time, like any other sane human being.

FritzLn · 2016-09-28T16:33:39+00:00

fuck what a woman says

zarquon989 · 2016-09-28T18:05:53+00:00

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clybourn · 2016-09-28T21:58:22+00:00

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Amnesia2508 · 2016-09-28T22:54:48+00:00

You know what the great thing about fat, angry, ugly, bitter feminists is? Nobody really cares about them!

Except other fat, angry, ugly, bitter feminists. They herd.

greywolf1968 · 2016-09-29T00:05:04+00:00

The whole article can be summed up in one sentence." Come back you scum and give us all your money!" All they have to offer is abuse and more abuse. And still they wonder " where have all the good men gone?" " they saw you coming and they all f**ked off. BTW check out chapter 1 of " the awesome adventures of chad thundercock " over on WordPress.it's not exactly Shakespeare but you might find it amusing.

DarylDixonK · 2016-09-29T00:31:39+00:00

privileged bitches live in candyland, sustained by the tears of broken men.

Fuck all of those entitled whores!

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EconomistMagazine · 2016-09-28T15:57:40+00:00

They got one claim right.

I'm all for equal rights if women, that cats or if the bag. Your not using away they're right to vote, it just won't happen. What I'm against is women greetings MORE rights than men. So in that way I'm anti feminist and so are a ton of people that aren't MGTOW

mgtow_eagle · 2016-09-28T17:10:10+00:00

Isn't it interesting how all of the these articles and all this attention is coming from women?

toysjoe · 2016-09-28T17:27:49+00:00

"The community's forums are rife with sexist discussions on topics like 'why women are getting fatter'"

Apparently facts are sexist

nexus974 · 2016-09-28T20:29:37+00:00

So two critical articles about MGTOW are published in the uk just weeks after catcalling was declared a 'hate crime'. The timing is interesting.

sanchezkid · 2016-09-28T20:45:44+00:00

Since when do we hate them? All we want to do is avoid them. Feminist articles. Tsk tsk tsk

2016-09-28T21:13:32+00:00

I wonder if she expects that calling me a "Kissless Virgin, Homophobe, Alt-Righters,Anti-Feminist" will make me rush over and start dating again.

How does one gain experience if they get shamed, marginalized and ignored for not having said experience?

Cyborg_Genos · 2016-09-28T22:35:08+00:00

"Woman upset because men don't wanna have sex with her".

Female entitlement in a nutshell.

2016-09-28T23:24:42+00:00

Being a kissless virgin seems to really get under their skin more than being one my self.

Lol

hollybegin · 2016-09-29T01:54:42+00:00

Thank you for your help, Valerie. More wannabe mgtows will join the movement because of your noise and seasoned mgtows still don't give a shit about your venom.....

blue_magoo_62 · 2016-09-29T12:31:09+00:00

dear author.

did you know there also exists subreddits that glorify women and say that men are holding women back from their potential. but thats okay, because they're just words expressing ideas. much like this is. but what really seems to be a problem is when ideas take hold and the workers put down their tools.

if women were to nope-out of society because they see no potential being with a man nobody bats an eye or cares.

but if men do it? suddenly its not allowed. its wrong and not fair.

look, all we're saying is leave us alone. we dont like you and we dont want to be around you. and thats our god given right. you cant make us be your friend and ally.

if all the mgtow community are such deluded morons and have it so wrong maybe run a headline like "more and more unreasonable males are grouping together, refusing to breed, and removing themselves from the dating game. therefore theres only great guys left out there ladies!"

in short. fuck off. and we will too.

RXRob · 2016-09-28T16:46:54+00:00

Two out of four ain't bad.

2016-09-28T17:17:18+00:00

bla bla bla

boringcarpets · 2016-09-28T17:30:13+00:00

Hahaha lol, cool. And? Your inaccurate words have no meaning

mgtow_eagle · 2016-09-28T17:37:42+00:00

The comment section is beautiful.

2016-09-28T20:52:51+00:00

Damn these slanderous cunts who don't even do proper research on shit they write about. Agents of misinformation. Damn them to hell.

throwaway_chingado · 2016-09-28T22:39:55+00:00

I was married 21 miserable years, 2 kids, I did everything society tells you that you are supposed to do and it blew up in my face - entirely due to AWALT. The only thing I am thankful for is that at least I can spend the last third of my life - crippled financially as it may be - in fucking peace, going my own way.

2016-09-28T22:40:00+00:00

Nope Nope Sorta Yes

2016-09-28T23:47:46+00:00

Damn... the alt-right is the media's new bogeyman. If you want people to hate something, just associate it with the alt-right. Also... why would anyone say MGTOW doesn't like homosexuals. That ain't none of our damn business.

byebyehillary · 2016-09-29T00:24:58+00:00

LOL. I sleep with a different woman every week, and it only costs me $200. Why the hell would I waste my time on a bunch of cunts when I can buy one for less money than I make in a day!?

2016-09-29T04:26:14+00:00

Who the hell reads TDM, let alone accept their views??? Most liberal thing you'll ever get out there. I'll stick to my conservative news media outlets. Breitbart seems quite good...

Jzrt10 · 2016-09-29T12:21:51+00:00

The Independent also wrote an article about MGTOW: http://archive.is/IRxMo

Title	The Daily Mail Joins the MGTOW Marketing/Shaming Team: "MGTOWs are Kissless Virgins, Homophobes, Alt-Righters, and Did We Mention They Are Anti-Feminist?"
Author	lostapwbm
Upvotes	138
Comments	137
Date	September 28, 2016 12:43 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/54w4ja/the_daily_mail_joins_the_mgtow_marketingshaming/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/the-daily-mail-joins-the-mgtow-marketingshaming.620167 https://theredarchive.com/post/620167

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