I want to have a family with a woman but

truthtawker · 2020-04-15T23:52:41+00:00

AWALT. unicorns do not exist.

Fuxk1n · 2020-04-15T23:52:27+00:00

I also want a family with a woman.

And There probably is some good women out there somewhere...

But there's probably one in a billion chance of finding a unicorn, i don't like those odds.

I don't want to bring a child into this world with women the way they are now, it's not fair to the the child and it's too much of a burden on men to have to spend everyday worrying about her abandoning child and husband.

kyledontcare · 2020-04-16T00:06:54+00:00

No it isn't possible. Save your energy. I'd recommend being MGTOW monk. Save your best efforts for yourself. Buy yourself presents. When this virus is over and past give yourself a nice little vacation somewhere you like. Make friends with like-minded men who have also taken the red pill and woken up.

stent00 · 2020-04-16T00:45:00+00:00

Before you think of splooging into a thot to make a baby... just think of the 18+ years of child support you will be on the hook for if she bails... shrinks your dink.., doesn’t it

bouldurer · 2020-04-16T05:04:58+00:00

Even if you find a good woman and you have a kid, look at what your kid has to look forward to:

Global competition, stagnant wages
A country that’s loaded up massively on debt
Terrible school system, substandard teachers, over priced College
Complete moral decay. Imagine what morals he’ll be taught by the media, by society
Identity politics, if you don’t think like me, you must be bad

You have to think about if your kid will be better off than you are now. Considering the current trends, I wouldn’t have a kid and put him or her in this decaying society.

gimmeabreakfuk · 2020-04-16T04:28:22+00:00

Loyal woman is an oxymoron

PresidentOf4UM · 2020-04-16T01:15:30+00:00

Well, you can marry with a woman in her 80s.

KungFluVirus2020 · 2020-04-16T01:32:24+00:00

i thought had a good woman once....but it didnt last and it was mainly my fault.

Our society is not designed for monogamy anymore and it in fact, rewards infidelity and promiscuity for women.

Its not worth it...but if you can find a woman to go "half on a kid" with like a business deal, i'd say be careful and get an attorney to work out the "kinks".

DangZagnut · 2020-04-16T02:16:58+00:00

I've only had great relationships with women, I've been quite public about that. I've never had a bad one.

And that's because I have "lovers" in my own concept of relationships, that don't fall into the trad con "marriage" system, or what most people do for "casual". So they've all been great.

I just invested what works best for me, not what grand pa said he did back in 1950.

bieberblows · 2020-04-16T02:54:01+00:00

I use to want a family but not anymore. After a lifetime of dealing with ungrateful bitches, I don't need the courts to fuck me while my spoiled brat hates me.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2020-04-16T02:59:30+00:00

You aren't alone. Many MGTOWs became MGTOW after a bad divorce/breakup, they had bought into the dream of being a family man.

Many MGTOWs are disenfranchised MRAs. They used to buy into the hype that men and women are equal, they just (correctly) knew that women had too many rights over men and only wanted equality. But then they left MRA after seeing that not only did the MRAs not accomplish shit for 100 years, but that MRA has been coopted by women anyway.

MGTOW is honestly a last resort option for many men. In fact, once the west inevitably collapses and everyone loses their rights, some may pick up women because in a collapsed society there is no government to put a gun to your head to force you to treat the woman a certain way, which means you'll actually have authority over her.

But in the current year, and for the foreseeable future, MGTOW is the only option.

thebabylonbull · 2020-04-16T01:34:00+00:00

Same here...I'd love to have kids, take them to ball practice, help them in school, take roadtrips with them on weekends, go camping...all that shit....but the women today are FUCKED UP! and its just not worth the effort or risk for your mental, physical and financial well-being to get married, until the world goes back to the way it used to be before all this feminist bullshit and all that. Take away their voting rights and everything and get back to the fucking kitchen and make some bread and stew!

attongirdeaux · 2020-04-16T07:26:10+00:00

Married, and even if they are a unicorn its not worth it. If I could back and not get married 100% would. My wife was one of the rare debtless tattooless skinny virgins and its still not overall worth it. STAY SINGLE.

sakuragiOG · 2020-04-16T09:18:01+00:00

Bro most of them are damaged goods in this era. If they're not they have toxic slutty friends and they will become damaged goods sooner or later. After my first gf (early teens) cheated I only wanted a good girl to build a future/family with, as I never had a stable family growing up.

I took a religious girls virginity in my late teens and we got in to a relationship. She went to university while I worked construction in the same city. She called me up one day with her new friends in the background laughing "Are you just going to be a builder the rest of your life?" I was 21 years old. She didn't even have a job and was in debt. I told her fuck off and she became a slut all over Facebook within 2 weeks. Hit me up 2 years later and I fucked her brains out, nutted on her face and in her hair and ghosted her ever since. She still messages me at least once a year but I blocked her now. AWALT bro. The west is burning in hellfire.

GYOW and never look back

evergreen35 · 2020-04-16T03:42:58+00:00

I think what you have to understand about women is that they really do not love men. Women love money status security and tingles. If you can provide those things she might not leave you, but women will never be happy no matter what you do.

Trust_No_Bitches · 2020-04-16T00:30:28+00:00

I think it is possible to have a successful relationship with women still. But the problem is a lot of women are either too broken or too stubborn to change and would rather coast through a relationship. If you can find a woman that has neither of these problems you might have a shot.

With that being said, you need to have the abundance mindset and not put her before yourself or slack off in the relationship yourself. And if she can't or won't abide by your stands you can dump her and easily find another woman. That's not an easy accomplishment but if take care of yourself, work your ass off, and are smart with your money you'll never have trouble finding another woman.

MGTOWlF7xEtsJyj · 2020-04-16T02:46:25+00:00

There are no successful relationships with women.

Women are not loyal or trustworthy.

user_miki · 2020-04-16T06:45:55+00:00

We all wanted families with real women.The problem is that they have too much power(given by society) in relationships.The relationship is not balanced.Nobody want to be a furniture or an utility to be used.

It is impossible to have an honest relationship where one partner has all the benefits and the power to destroy your life and other with only the responsibilities.

2020-04-16T03:32:21+00:00

No, you really don't...

Fhaze1117 · 2020-04-16T05:33:48+00:00

Unless you're cool with the risk of paying alimony,child support,losing your house and freedom it's best to just stay away.

mvlock · 2020-04-16T07:33:22+00:00

Depend on how much u want to spend on lottery tickets and wait for getting the prize

R3dd1tSuux · 2020-04-16T10:53:02+00:00

Yeah, the stories are just unbelievable. In several decades since college, out of maybe 60-80 couples I've known through family/friends/work, I've seen maybe 5 that seemed truly happy and lasted more than 10 years. Nearly every woman I've dated had either been divorced, dated at least one guy before me, or was a serial monogamist.

As some would say, the only remote possibility of a successful relationship is living in a foreign country with more favorable laws / customs, or a closed religious community like Amish/Mennonites. It's all about societal pressure to keep women's hypergamy in check. But in the secular West, and with this virus / silent war that China/the cabal is running and Trump is fighting, a woman is the LAST headache you need.

Stay focused on surviving, thriving, innovating, work on yourself and get closer to God. My $0.02 - good luck.

UnfoundHound · 2020-04-16T07:59:37+00:00

Same for me. I am in a relationship though. So far so good, but I just take it day by day. I am still focused on myself. My gf is just a bonus. I wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly left me. Perhaps I'd be disappointed for a bit, but I wouldn't be able to care for too long. If it lasts and I get kids with her that be nice, and if not it still be nice.

womenofcourse · 2020-04-16T02:33:26+00:00

based off statistics you have maybe 5%

of the female population to pick from

THAT IS NOT A LOT

and thats assuming the world has not damaged them already

bpdloveoflife · 2020-04-16T11:39:26+00:00

Before you even think about women or what they can give you in your life, focus on yourself brother. Learn to love yourself and be happy with yourself. You will then realise that the craving for a relationship is really to soothe your own deep inside pain, and working on that makes you whole without anyone else.

Musket_22 · 2020-04-16T12:35:23+00:00

I think what you may start seeing over the next decade is more relationships where it doesn't lead to marriage. Like cohabiting without putting a ring on it. Mainly because younger people are starting to realize how screwed up the gov't is when it comes to marriage and how it isn't worth the risk. It'll be weird since marriage has been around for a long time but it is very outdated and only serves to harm the man and benefit the woman. I know some states have cohabiting laws so I guess youd have to find some that don't.

KUL-DANK · 2020-04-16T14:40:57+00:00

my entire life i only had girls that already had bf's/husbands interested in me, or they were too young for me and im no pedophile

dakd2 · 2020-04-16T16:22:12+00:00

I think I thought or felt that as a kid somehow but now that thought or feeling became buried in a forgotten grave somewhere

LonelyBobcat · 2020-04-16T17:07:56+00:00

> All I wanted was a loyal woman to have a family with and show that no matter what that I'd love you unconditionally.

You sound young, man. This is a really terrible outlook for life, to look for someone to love unconditionally. That just isn't how relationships work, and trying to define your future relationships with this mindset when you don't have anyone in particular to project these feelings onto doesn't make sense. Love is supposed to be a special and unique experience, but when you have already decided what your relationship is going to be about before you even met the 'right girl' you are setting yourself up for failure.

It's also just wrong. Even women don't get loved unconditionally.

socracticoctopus · 2020-04-16T17:31:34+00:00

AWALT AWALT AWALT, we live in turbo clownworld boyo get used to it. I know it stings realizing that a prolonged, loving, loyal relationship with a woman is and has always been a fantasy, but it's the truth. So accept it and move on with your life.

Sexy_McHandsome · 2020-04-17T00:39:53+00:00

Even if I wanted a woman I literally can't pursue them knowing what I know now. I dated a girl who literally fit all my preferences and it was still AWFUL! And that was best case scenario

Affectionate-Taro · 2020-04-17T07:33:58+00:00

I'm married with 2 sons, but as I advise every man I meet, don't do it it's a trap. My wife is (for now) a unicorn, but I've got all her shit tapped. Put a Ghost program on her phone, got a Meraki firewall on the home network. DNA tested both kids on the DL to make sure they are mine. So far she is loyal, but eventually this will fail.

So bottom line its possible, but at any moment she can demand a divorce and fuck me. I have no power in divorce court if she chooses to do so.

My advice is don't risk it. My kids are amazing, and I love them more than anything, but my wife could literally snatch them away tomorrow via the court system if she wanted to. I somehow found a "unicorn" (for now... I'm 100% confident I'll eventually get fucked) but the risk is not worth the reward. Until family courts recognize Father's rights, don't roll those dice.

All that being said, I've been married for 4 years now, and dated my wife for 5 years before that. I work in IT so her tech means no secrets from me, but I'm still held hostage by the courts if she AWALTs on me.

My advice is try to find a unicorn, but be very skeptical. I'm 9 years in, but it could all change tomorrow. You will always be powerless against the legal system. I don't regret the choices I made as I love playing with my sons, but always remember that the woman can Fuck you at any moment.

Title	I want to have a family with a woman but
Author	vast-remotes
Upvotes	92
Comments	43
Date	April 15, 2020 11:46 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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