~ archived since 2018 ~
Popular
Other
[deleted]
[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Question everything... including this.
[–]mgtowguynow13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. Always keep yourself sharp, always be inquisitive. Never stop learning.
[–]Dreesy26 points27 points28 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Wait until you finish puberty and have some life experience before you start defining your world views based on reddit.
All you have to do at your age is make sure not to knock anyone up.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. You need experience. Date girls. Don't get any pregnant. Fall in love with one or even two of them. After you get shat on, emasculated, and stolen from a few times, and your heart callouses over, then you will understand Mgtow. And did I say do not get anyone pregnant?
[+][deleted] 10 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
then aim him at adult women so they are the rapists, legally, and he isn't.
[–]RedBigMan1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He'll still pay child support if he gets one of them preggo though which can destroy his entire future.
[–]MGHOW_ATL0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He can wait till older (Sr year, early college) and dip toes in the water legally. He just has to be aware.
Wish we had this when I was his age. Danger is to swallow too early and not live becuz FearOfRapeCharges.
Can't really learn why touching a hot stove is so bad until you've done it. Watching your brother do it can teach, but you won't know REALLY until you've been burned yourself.
Kid, wait awhile. Fuck an 18 year old but don't let her lead you around by the dick. Wrap it, don't cum in her even with it on, don't buy her lots of shit or pedestalize her. She WILL fuck around on you and cause havoc in your life. Live this, learn that AWALT and then let this prematurely-ingested Pill digest.
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
only if he's unwise. With good advice he can cover his bases and ensure the girls don't actually know his name to point a finger at.
[–]Dreesy-2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This whole "don't do anything in life because you might get accused of rape" is such a weak excuse.
And it's just that, an excuse.
Based on this fear, I should have been accused of rape at least 5 times by now, and yet here I am, pelvic thrusting into the wind.
[–]csehszlovakzeThe Hungarian1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
don't do anything in life because you might get accused of rape
what a huge ass strawman you just threw my way...
[–]Dreesy-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It has nothing to do with you. Do you know how many times ive read "dont do x because of rape threat"? Its honestly getting out of hand, we have guys who are downright afraid to talk to women because of that shit. Theres mgtow, and then theres letting your life be controlled by fear.
[–]csehszlovakzeThe Hungarian0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Theres mgtow, and then theres letting your life be controlled by fear.
and you conveniently forgot a 3rd option, which is going in recklessly (like most PUA do) and how you sound like. I'm not even advocating sexless MGTOW (would be utterly hypocritical), it's up to everyone, but it's our "duty" to warn newcomers of the risks and then they'll make up their minds.
[–]oldredder1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is not reddit.
Going your own way is a tradition of wise men thousands of years ago.
[–]Isaiah4verse1Burning Bush14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely not. I followed MGTOW principles as young as age 14.
I hope to see more young people learning the truth Rock on bro!
[–]scarredlife3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you think this is sad, then you're not ready to go your own way.
You should look for another longterm relationship and experience firsthand how bad and rigged this "love" thing is. Make sure to not get burned too much. Swallowing the red pill can be very bitter at first.
nothing sad about that. You don't need a girlfriend. If you're attractive you can get sex. If you're not but you're not poor, you can pay for sex.
Relationships will just ruin your life, spend your money, take up your time and make you question why you ever bothered.
It's like a leprechaun sitting at the bottom of a rainbow teasing you with bacon-flavoured smells and naked women around his pot of gold but if you ever get the pot you find there's only shit in it.
[–]felarel0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cool, but we dont care about things like this
focus on self improvement
[–]mugammatau0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. I did too and I focused on expanding my skillset and over the years I went from being dirt-poort (almost homeless) to having a research stipend to a software-engineering salary.
Now I'm trying to make the jump to a job that pays about twice as much. And in 5 years, who knows? But I'm making plans for doubling it again. All this so I can retire early and leave the disgusting social scenario.
[–]OTTMGTOW12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, though don't let it turn you to hatred. Many end up stuck in the red pill rage. Don't become bitter. Use the knowledge to avoid much heart ache. A large part of MGTOW for me is self actualisation. Improve yourself, read, don't stop learning. Don't base your worth in the approval of others, especially not women.
All the best to you kid. Life is harsh, is tough, but it can be a very amazing and enjoyable journey if you live it for yourself.
[+][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
At your age it's normal but you must move on from this. You need to be smart, strong and make good decisions and base your worth on that.
[+][deleted] 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]cariboo_j8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bad Advice. The latex rubs against the other latex and is more likely to break. Wearing one is actually the more secure option.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, it is absolutely not too early. Even at 15, you can do things that will permanently fuck your life up. The biggest hazard you probably need to watch out for is getting a girl pregnant.
Just take what you read with a grain of salt. Except the not getting a girl pregnant part, seriously don't ever do this.
[–]cariboo_j4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Eh.
Depends how you put MGTOW theories into practice.
Should you shun women completely and drop out of the dating game? I'd say 15 is a bit early for that.
The key thing you should take from this site is don't plan your life around a girlfriend, never make her the most important thing in your life, always have something else going on. Most teenage relationships don't last anyways.
I wish I'd had that perspective when I was 15-19. I used to get overly invested then get all bent out of shape and depressed when a relationship ended.
Bitches come and go. Which is fine. You can have some fun and get experience with casual dating if you want, just don't let yourself be guilted/manipulated into being a beta provider. Or think she'll be there for you when the chips are down. Most women are fair weather friends. Luxury items. If you keep that in mind you won't feel as hurt or angry when they jump ship.
Just be Zen and role with it. If they start shit testing and manipulating you then gtfo. Make a plan for your life and stick to it. I changed major plans twice (which university to attend, then even my career kind of) to "make it work" with two different girls.
Both times the relationship ended and I was left high and dry, standing with my thumb up my butt like an idiot.
MGTOW is just about investing in yourself because you're the only person who you can 100% count on.
Investing in girls, that shit's a gamble. They might fuck you over or you might break up amicably, but even if you do break up amicably you're probably going to be left thinking "damn I wish I'd followed my dreams instead."
And don't let it become sour grapes. If you're fat/unattractive/have poor social skills and girls don't like you anyways don't just rationalize that as "huh well I'm MGTOW".
[–]cariboo_j2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well if you're unhappy being unattractive/poor social skills don't let MGTOW be the excuse that prevents you from changing those things. You'll probably regret it later.
However if you're happy... I guess continue? There are no one size fits all answers. What works for one guy doesn't necessarily work for another. You just gotta be honest with yourself, figure out what works for you.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
my suggestion: never too early to discover anything. Following/adapting that lifestyle? That's something different.
As r/TVTestPattern has stated, continue to question everything: my suggestions, suggestions in the comments, the social status quo around you, etc.
[–]maxnarvaes3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]User-31f64a4e2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's never too soon for the truth. Delusions are bad, m'kay? The more accurately you grasp reality, the more skillfully you can deal with it.
You don't have to ghost and turn your back on society - in fact that would be a bit extreme (esp. without making bank first.) However, you now know NOT to get married and NOT to knock anybody up. You also know to take measures to protect yourself from false accusations, and might consider restricting yourself to off-campus women should you go to school. (That's not foolproof, but it should help.)
[–]MuscleCarz2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Here's my .02.
First and foremost, recognize and acknowledge you've been conditioned and brainwashed to seek validation and acceptance from the larger group, especially women. This LIE will cause more damage to a man than anything imo.
Learn to seek validation and acceptance FROM WITHIN, from YOU. This will allow for you to question your motivations in a healthy way; "why am I doing this," "why am I thinking this way," "what are the source(s) of my motivations?", etc...
NEXT: Develop a life-plan for YOURSELF. Really sit down and plan out what you want for you, where you want to go, how you're going to get there. Plan it out with realistic, doable "landmarks" of achievement, (my landmarks involved things such as AA degree by 93', Bachelor's by 96' Master's by 99' career by 2000', etc. Treat yourself to fun stuff along the way, and remember to promise yourself TO OWN IT 100%, i.e, don't let anyone try to knock you off your path.
When you have a solid plan, women, interestingly enough, will be very attracted to your demeanor and attitude when you're a man with a plan (they can sniff out a man with "potential" they can siphon off with deadly accuracy). If you're careful and disciplined, you can use this to your advantage and get laid here and there, however, women will invariably try to knock you off your path/plan to "test" you.
Never give in to the parasitic pussy-trap and stray from your plan. Conscious or not, women are artfully skilled at using their sexuality/pussy to siphon off of you until they're done with you. With RARE exception, women will eventually throw down the "marry me or I'm leaving you" gauntlet. Just let them leave. As hard as it is to let "steady" pussy go, let it go, let her walk. Play safe and never fall for the "unicorn" trap and get married.
[–]the_simurgh2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
your never to old to learn how to cover your own ass.
proof: i learned at 6
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No.You don't have to suffer to realize that pain is not good. Head the warnings of us older guys, and conduct your life intelligently. It will save you a lifetime of regrets and heartache.
[–]bonusfruit0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Record interactions with girls. Trust none of them. Never apologize for being male. What else do I wish I was told when I was 15... Oh yeah. Never catch feelings ever
[–]GirlTrollsBros0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
do you know your father? talk to him if he doesnt talk to you
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Things may be very different in the next 10 years. You're the last of the millenials (1980-2001/Chelsea Clinton to the 9/11 babies), so you're on the caboose for how all this plays out.
Your dating pool is within the next generation of girls, and they may not be as ghastly as their moms. Us millenials are hosed, but you might be able to find a girl who hates how she was raised and will become a faithful housewife just out of rebellion, lol
I wouldn't say there's a point that is definitely too early. But you may not see the significance of it all, until you've lived a little longer. Don't stress about it too much, but keep the knowledge in mind and you will start to realize the examples that are given on this sub reflect the real world.
Compared to what? Do you mean "too soon to get tricked into making bad decisions with women and maybe having a kid and/or divorce"?
Many comparisons are false comparisons, so if you are comparing yourself to your peer group, then that's just an average which might not mean much.
15 year olds can be pretty smart (I, on the other hand, had "potential", but it means nothing that I was "smart" for my age. Curiosity and creativity are more important, but I digress). MGTOW can be age appropriate for 15 year olds perhaps.
Is it too early to learn that you should always lock the door whenever you leave the house?
Too early to know about gun safety,heck,any safety laws?
Yeah....never too early to learn about MGTOW.Earlier the better.
Mgtow as in learning to find what you need to complete yourself and not trying to find that thing in another person? Nope, perfect age.
Mgtow as in the boarderline asexuality it seems like some people think represents mgtow? Then yes.
[–]mgtow_eagle0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's never too early to know the truth.
[–]Albacorewing0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do not let women exploit you. Do not become, as a 50's song called it, "Kathy's Clown." Do not get one pregnant. Never have sex with one who has had a single drink, any pot or drugs. She can claim lack of informed consent and accuse you of rape. Do not have sex with a girl younger than your state's age of consent. Do not co-sign with women for loans. Keep your money separate. Follow these taboos.
[–]iPornMan0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember the lessons of the Red Pill and You are the Prize to be won not Her. If the girl is not contributing something of real value, something other girls cant provide, to the relationship then what's the point in having a relationship with her?
[–]CongenialVirus0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not really. It probably means you're smart and aren't driven as completely by your instincts.
I've always sort of followed MGTOW principals, before I knew the name for it. Even when I was pre-pube. I was always was watching, observing, and never forgetting my first memory. Sad part is, it's hard to remember my first memory now. But I can still pull it up, and I won't forget what it is. But to remember it as vividly as it was, it's difficult now almost two and a half decades later.
Sort of. Don't let it hold you back from jumping off the cliff into the river.
You can't avoid women, especially so young. Get experience but keep the eyes open.
Sip of these waters, don't drink too deeply until you've gotten balls-deep in some chick and she's fucked things up.
Another tip -- if you have a sister or a good buddy with a sister, be sly and subtle to watch how she manages boy after boy. Don't snoop, comment or talk about it, etc, just watch and listen.
You will learn soooooooo much with simple observation over a few months.
[–]superdude411-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, all men should discover MGTOW from birth.
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.created by /u/dream-hunter
[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]mgtowguynow13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dreesy26 points27 points28 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (9 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[+][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]RedBigMan1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MGHOW_ATL0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dreesy-2 points-1 points0 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]csehszlovakzeThe Hungarian1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dreesy-1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]csehszlovakzeThe Hungarian0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Isaiah4verse1Burning Bush14 points15 points16 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]scarredlife3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]felarel0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]mugammatau0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]OTTMGTOW12 points13 points14 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]oldredder1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]cariboo_j8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]cariboo_j4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]cariboo_j2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]maxnarvaes3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]User-31f64a4e2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MuscleCarz2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]the_simurgh2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]bonusfruit0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]GirlTrollsBros0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]mgtow_eagle0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Albacorewing0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]iPornMan0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]CongenialVirus0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MGHOW_ATL0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MGHOW_ATL0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]superdude411-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link