Depressed Guy need some Advice...

captainsaveahoe69 · 2020-05-15T11:18:13+00:00

You're looking at it wrong. Thank your lucky stars you don't have life on easy street like they do. You're a man, we are born to struggle against the odds. Look around you, all that infrastructure and achievements was accomplished by men struggling. You thick great athletes don't suffer and struggle? Learn to suffer a little bit at a time and get out there and achieve your goals. Don't even think about women. Good luck son.

SwordMasterLink79 · 2020-05-15T11:40:41+00:00

“Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”

Mark Twain

DangZagnut · 2020-05-15T11:45:35+00:00

It’s not rigged against you, you can do whatever you want.

The problem is you’re operating under and illusion of fucking bitches then white picket fence and babies that will all be perfect and magically love you.

That illusion, like Santa Claus, is just that, it’s an illusion.

You need to let illusions go. You have an incorrect view of reality. You need to accept reality for what it is. It’s always been a shit show, it’s just more obvious now.

The closer you align your brain with unbiased reality, the less you’ll have this kind of internal fracture.

You’re not powerless. You’re just really giving a shit about things that don’t matter.

Who cares if thots make money off OnlyFans or whatever. That has nothing to do with you. Don’t give them money and you’re fine.

Be selfish and focus on you and find some purpose unrelated to pussy.

No one goes far worshipping pussy.

If a career or work or purpose was based on pussy, you have a lot to change as to your priorities in life. Your cheese was in the wrong trap.

Stop comparing yourself to some thot and her income. She can do that for what. 5 years? Then what is she going to do the next 70 years?

Astral-Projector · 2020-05-15T12:13:03+00:00

I could write a book here, but all i can say(and this is coming from a guy that's been dealing with deep depression, suicidal thoughts(even had a gun pointed at my head and mouth a couple of times))

Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

Stoicism saved my life and sanity.

GoodMan_Gone · 2020-05-15T11:38:03+00:00

Look, not everybody is "born" to study to high college degrees. Either by lack of intelligence or motivation. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's perfectly OK to learn a trade like construction, installation or car tech. You always will be able to make money with that. And also not everybody can/ will become a multi millionaire. Having learned a trade/ profession and thus making your own living is IMO a reward in itself.
Those thots you're talking about? Who make money out of moron simps by taking pics of their ass with their phones? They can only do that in their fertility window. After the wall hits them it's a one way trip to cat land for them. While you can keep your head high by providing for yourself.

So stop looking at others and focus on yourself. Now get off your ass, make a choice and go for it. Feeling sorry for yourself won't help you one inch further.

stoopididoit · 2020-05-15T12:59:45+00:00

There will always be people that have it better than you... Are you really trying to use that as an excuse to not try? Are you saying you want to give up because others have an easier path than you? My man, this is not the way

Stop worrying about what other people have, or do, or how much they make.. it's irrelevant. Focus on yourself and what you can do. You are too caught up in a narrow world view my man, there is much more to life than the things we have to do to survive and thrive physically.

That said, obviously you need to get yourself 'squared away' on the basics of life; income, home and hobbies. Then you can focus on finding a path in life that you're happy to walk.

SwordMasterLink79 · 2020-05-15T11:46:09+00:00

What are your ambitions? What are you aiming at?

Don't compare yourself to the successfully thots out there, who make a month's salary on a day. It is another instance of looking at the top of the pyramid.

The thot's problems are:

lack of character building struggle
their source of income dries up as they hit the wall around 30 years of age

After all, men age like wine, women age like milk.

If you want money, you probably should go for the STEM field. Orient your hobbies and interests around it too, and with struggle over time there will inevitably be success.

If you want family, you are on the wrong subreddit. Good luck with that

If you want happiness, I can only tell you what they say: Happiness comes as a byproduct of hard effort on your journey.

Regarding your depression: Depression is no joking matter. It is not to be dealed with lightly.

Love yourself
Rule 2: Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for
Rule 4: Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today
Rule 7: Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)

(Rules 2, 4 & 7 courtesy of Jordan Peterson)

I admit, these are not easy times for a man to grow up, there's a quote I take heart in from Lord of the Rings regarding hard times:

"'I wish it need not have happened in my time,' said Frodo. 'So do I,' said Gandalf, 'and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.'"

Do yourself some good. If necessary seek professional help. Best of success on your journey.

evergreen35 · 2020-05-15T13:22:18+00:00

As another guy said: Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

Also: get into rigorous exercise. Find workouts you enjoy- mtn biking, lift weights, running, walking, anything. You will feel better after working out. Eat healthy. Cut out sugar, completely if you can. Avoid alcohol (also just sugar).

I eat something like a paleo diet: Eat healthy fats, lean meat and green veggies: full fat yogurt, nuts, seeds, chicken, salads, cut out carbs and grains as much as possible.

Learn to love yourself, and don't seek validation for others.

Edit- also get your vitamin D levels checked and take it if needed!

SufferableKant · 2020-05-15T13:24:42+00:00

Don't focus too much on total number of dollars earned per annum.

Do you know who else has more money than us? The local drug dealer who sells crystal meth to schoolkids; warlord dictators in Africa, twinks in the gay porn industry taking it up the ass, some rando who won the week's lottery ticket, and Paris Hilton.

Rather focus on how much money you need to achieve and maintain a comfortable lifestyle. Trim all the "nice-to-haves" and unnecessary consumerism, and focus on how much you need, not want.

Remember that as you study and work, your economic value is constantly increasing, just like compound interest. All those OnlyFans thots? Their value starts dropping as soon as they hit 18, and every year there is a new wave of them ready to replace the old.

To close off, some advice from Scott Adams:

(...) you have two paths:

Become the best at one specific thing.

Become very good (top 25%) at two or more things.

(...) Capitalism rewards things that are both rare and valuable. You make yourself rare by combining two or more “pretty goods” until no one else has your mix.

Nostradomas · 2020-05-15T15:47:46+00:00

Just focus on yourself. You need to stop giving a shit about what others have and you don’t. Or what they earn. Etc.

Focus on yourself. Lift weights for the satisfaction of being a brick shithouse.

Make money for the satisfaction of doing whatever YOU want to do with your time.

Do things for yourself. Period. Master yourself. Get into fun hobby’s. Learn to shoot and build firearms. They’re a lot of fun. Play video games. There a lot of fun. Travel. It’s a fucking cool world. Everything from hiking and camping. To beaches and islands. To foreign cities and forgotten ruins.

The word is a wild place. Who gives a shit what some braud is making for showing her skin? She’s hollow and worthless in reality. So who gives a fuck? Fuck em.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2020-05-15T12:01:55+00:00

You have two options:

I can do what I want, and nobody cares... :(

OR

I can do what I want, AND NOBODY CARES! :-D

rtrgmr · 2020-05-15T11:16:39+00:00

stop whining like a little bitch and make something of yourself. men don't compete against thots they compete against other men

2stepp · 2020-05-15T14:18:36+00:00

Do not go gently into that good night, my friend. You should be angry, not resigned.

You should be steadfast and resolved, not apathetic and downtrodden.

Nobody can give you these things. You must decide to have them and to build them for yourself.

throwaway2233432 · 2020-05-15T15:11:55+00:00

Women have lived life on recruit difficulty for most of the modern era until they hit the wall.

The supply is growing exponentially for these "industries", however demand is not growing at the same rate. Most men see little value in paying for something that is available free with little to no effort.

Of course there are the high value earners that the sites publish stories about, this will not be the outcome for the large percentage of women who sign up for these sites.

You're still young and definitely sound like you're a passionate person in your work/life. It is annoying to be that engaged, trust me. People will take advantage of you, unfortunately some of life has to be learned from experience and you will gain wisdom as you age.

Just keep working on yourself, the only thing you can change is yourself and your reactions to external stimuli.

Shauyy · 2020-05-15T20:59:58+00:00

Women seem to go through life perpetually feeling unfulfilled. It doesn't matter that some ho can make a million dollars a year because it's never enough for her. You have the masculine ability of being content. Achieving the lifestyle that makes you happiest is a lot easier than you think. It's not going to flying around the world, I'm a huge believer that traveling is way overrated. Men can lively inexpensively and maximize the time spent doing what they like.

AndyTravelGuy314 · 2020-05-15T11:04:35+00:00

RocknR0IIa · 2020-05-15T11:23:58+00:00

You should work what makes you happy. To get invaluable things in life you have to make sacrifices. These thots will age in two days while wealth built on skill is forever.

Goaliej · 2020-05-15T12:09:28+00:00

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user_miki · 2020-05-15T12:12:46+00:00

You can make the life the way you wanted as long as you stay away from them.

They can make money like that until the reached the wall,After that they will look for you to bail them out.

Imperial_Plastics · 2020-05-15T12:42:00+00:00

These whores have a very specific window of viable earning potential... then it is all over, just like their fertility. You, on the other hand (unless you don’t shake this terminal case of vaginitis) have to develop the skills to meet goals and investment thresholds for decades to come.

Dry your eyes, run your own race.

2020-05-15T14:07:06+00:00

A game without adversity is not worth playing!

2020-05-15T14:56:20+00:00

Now you've got it. Just find a job, and work your 40 hours. Don't work yourself to death, all it does is make your taxes go up. Enjoy life

brachial1 · 2020-05-15T15:15:20+00:00

I agree with other posters about looking at this from a different viewpoint. I look for guidance through a stoic lense when I doubt myself or are looking at others in envious ways and the following quote has always helped me:

"No man is more unhappy than he who never faces adversity. For he is not permitted to prove himself." Seneca

Focus on you and your own improvement and you will benefit from the journey.

toxicgreencapsules · 2020-05-15T15:53:10+00:00

Young women can get everything frontloaded to them, while they are young, fertile and relatively attractive.
What you are looking at, are all short-term highlights of their mostly empty lives, and should not be used as a benchmark to compare it to yours.

Twitch, OnlyFans and Patreon thots seemingly a lot of easy cash?
Their looks will quickly fade, their simping subscriber numbers will wane, and the market will be oversaturated with younger hotter women that will replace them.
It's not a sustainable form of income for them.
Where will they be in 5 year's time? 10? 15?

Meanwhile, us men start off low in society and face the harsh realities of life, as soon as we are forced to set foot in the real world, with no back ups nor a place to return to.
We learn and experience through challenges and effort; and if we manage to survive and thrive through that, then we'll use that to build a sustainable future for ourselves for the long run.

You are the main character in your choose-your-own-adventure story.
Do not allow others to write it for you.

Do not set work and education as the primary goals of your life.
Your goals should be: (1) Be happy and worry-free, (2) Be healthy, (3) Be able to live a comfortable life.
Work your way backwards from there, as a means to achieve this.

2020-05-15T17:31:48+00:00

Don't be jealous of them. They may make money, but they won't find meaning. You can build a career that has an upward trajectory all the way until retirement. THOTs cash in early then hit the wall.

http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html

1. Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are opinion, pursuit, desire, aversion, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, property, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions.

The things in our control are by nature free, unrestrained, unhindered; but those not in our control are weak, slavish, restrained, belonging to others. Remember, then, that if you suppose that things which are slavish by nature are also free, and that what belongs to others is your own, then you will be hindered. You will lament, you will be disturbed, and you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you suppose that only to be your own which is your own, and what belongs to others such as it really is, then no one will ever compel you or restrain you. Further, you will find fault with no one or accuse no one. You will do nothing against your will. No one will hurt you, you will have no enemies, and you not be harmed.

Aiming therefore at such great things, remember that you must not allow yourself to be carried, even with a slight tendency, towards the attainment of lesser things. Instead, you must entirely quit some things and for the present postpone the rest. But if you would both have these great things, along with power and riches, then you will not gain even the latter, because you aim at the former too: but you will absolutely fail of the former, by which alone happiness and freedom are achieved.

Work, therefore to be able to say to every harsh appearance, "You are but an appearance, and not absolutely the thing you appear to be." And then examine it by those rules which you have, and first, and chiefly, by this: whether it concerns the things which are in our own control, or those which are not; and, if it concerns anything not in our control, be prepared to say that it is nothing to you.

usnraptor · 2020-05-15T18:10:16+00:00

That whore money isn't going to last them long. They'll piss it away buying stupid stuff, run up debt believing the income will last forever, then the next thing they know is they are yesterday's thot, and the income dries up.

usnraptor · 2020-05-15T18:13:25+00:00

Don't just MGTOW women; learn to MGTOW the system as well. Avoid debt, marriage, and kids.

Gladly-Unknown · 2020-05-15T22:11:33+00:00

Hardship will make you stronger I totally feel you though, been looking for scholarships abroad for my masters women get aid for existing while we got be perfect in every way to get scarps but you know what fuck them at the end of the day we have real knowledge and real.skills never forget that my friend. they might make more than you but they are too stupid to use it properly they'll be be more broke than you are by the end of the year res assured.

GundalfTheCamo · 2020-05-15T23:17:52+00:00

There are lots of people also who were born into money, so basically earning more than you while doing less than any cam girls.

Life is about personal progress, and learning new things and skills will make it more fulfilling. If you need to compare yourself to others, make it a benchmark. Compare what your doing to what others are doing, not on the income. Income is the end result.

sprocket_league · 2020-05-15T23:36:37+00:00

There are tons of ugly women at my job that nobody would pay to see naked. No man is paying for their bills. That's why they come to work for an hourly shit wage.

That's the real world.

That should cheer you up.

barkingtree25 · 2020-05-16T04:11:51+00:00

What's the point of going to college, get educated and bust my ass off working when some THOT makes my monthly salary in a single day? Should I even bother?

Let me give you a story here. Im a hacker and used to be a criminal. Im not proud of it, but its what happened. I did shit like hacking into midtier websites and systems to deface payment pages to pretend they accepted payments by bitcoin and put my wallet in or make the payment email the email for shell paypal accounts I had set up. Also loved to steal stored credit cards and just card whatever. Got a stash of about 10k business credit cards and would happily use one to spend say $600 on a big TV on a whim. Never got caught. In short the money was easy and I have BPD and feel empathy for no one so I didnt have any hesitance or guilt

But a few years ago I refound my religion and decided what I was doing is wrong. God doesnt want me behaving as a degenerate. Instead I got a job as a pentester which is good and very recently Ive started bug bounties. Anyway last month I found a bug in the biggest dating app in my country and reported it and just yesterday got a confirmation and $300 payment. $300 aint that much especially when compared to what I made as a criminal or heck even my monthly salary. Yet receiving that I felt such joy. That I was finding good bugs in apps by massive companies that have been through rigorous security Testing and getting paid for it, far more joy than I ever felt hacking those mid tier sites.

My point here is there is no joy in cash earned easily through nothing. But taking on something big and difficult and getting rewarded for it? Boy is that such a good feeling. As men our desire is to hone and prove our skills. And when that bears fruit is when we feel joy, even if the reward is not as high as the easy way, because men place their value based on their abilities not a moist hole. Be grateful you have that as women will never in their life be able to feel such satisfaction.

carbonblob · 2020-05-16T06:56:55+00:00

"Live an honorable life... so that when you're retired, you can reflect on it and enjoy it second time."

Yes, girls can exchange dignity for money, but the fact they did it will rattle around their minds for the rest of their lives like that little ball in a can of spray paint.

So they start taking antidepressants, cutting themselves, using drugs, getting a bunch of tattoos and piercings, becoming bulimic. Nothing to envy there.

And... if their past is discovered 5-10-15-20 years later, how do you think this will affect their families and careers?

Title	Depressed Guy need some Advice...
Author	AndyTravelGuy314
Upvotes	47
Comments	39
Date	May 15, 2020 11:04 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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