What non MGTOWers think of us

countinginsolitude · 2020-05-26T22:21:57+00:00

I made a post on MGTOW needing advice, support and as always, you all rushed to help me... Thank you MGTOW.

I then got a DM from a guy claiming MGTOW is bad.

What he didn't know is I have been going my own way for 3 years, almost 4. I told him that we're not bad.

Hope he can see that we're a great community

The_2nd_Bob · 2020-05-26T22:29:23+00:00

Like all aspects of life, there are stages. Basing an opinion on entire group of guys because a handful are freaking out is a terrible way to go through life forming an opinion. Keep it up!

DeplorableToast · 2020-05-26T22:53:34+00:00

Solid reply!

Jsin345 · 2020-05-26T22:48:45+00:00

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PresidentOf4UM · 2020-05-26T23:12:36+00:00

So you can't say anything bad about woman without turning into a " Woman Exterminator Machine born from rage & Knuckles " ? Geez.

PrinceRaj53 · 2020-05-27T00:10:46+00:00

It's always interesting to see how low iq idiots get offended after seeing something they can not comprehend because mommy told them "women are great and if someone says otherwise they are fools". No shortage of such men nowadays.

The problem with guys like that is they like the truth which is comfortable for them and which gives them satisfaction without challenging the fictional worldview that they hold despite seeing all the factual evidence in front of them. I like to call it the "Make Believe Feel Good" nonsense.

Lets take two examples :

1)Lets assume, if I say "councelling in a marriage is bullshit, it's not gonna solve anything, she can play her cards against you very easily because you are the man here, you are better off divorcing, she is a bitch anyway" then this guy will automatically assume I am hating on women as a whole because of that one situation. He wont see the fact that how relationships aren't cars and they cant be fixed the way we expect them to be and its the man who is the prize, so compromising everytime & bowing down to the wife because she is the wife makes the man a billy beta in her eyes and makes the relationship worse for the man. And since he wont see this, for him I am wrong because I said something negative about a woman and since I am mgtow, I am automatically wrong.

2)Another example. Lets say a man named A posts on this sub about how he suspects his wife is either emotionally cheating on him or is planning to cheat physically on him. Lets assume A said he had his doubts after he went through her phone & saw messages while his wife was sleeping and even though it's vague, his doubt is strong.

Lets assume I reply to the man A with lines like "If there is a doubt, there is no doubt" , "trust but verify" , and *"she is already cheating on you mate. Its highly likely that you just found it late. Its been going on since a long time. Start preparing for divorce. Divorce, block contacts, Hard next & move on".

Now here, the non-mgtow guy will say how misommistic I am, or a male chowmin pig (whatever its called). He will argue about how its disrespectful of the guy A to see his wife's messages like that and its violating her privacy blah blah blah, and how he broke the trust and all that crap. He will also say how A's wife deserve better than a judgemental asshole like A.

Now why is our non-mgtow guy an idiot? Because in this situation, he wont focus on the actual fact that how A was living a life filled to the brim with lies about how his wife loved him and all that shit. He wont see the fact that emotional cheating is the last red colored signal that the relationship is doomed and the man should jump ship at this point. If A decided to not look into the phone he would have gotten cucked without his knowledge a long time ago and how the mgtow advice is completely factual and solid in this.

The non-mgtow guy fails to see all this and goes back to the "make believe feel good" narrative.

What do these two examples show? They show the difference between someone who thinks and acts rationally, vs someone who view any and all situations from an emotional and "woke" point of view. "Woke progressive" bullshit does not work in relationships, no matter how feminized men want it to. Sadly this fact goes over most men's heads and they end up living a life filled with lies such as "my wife loves me a lot/that guy with mah wife is just a friend of hers/so what if she is staying at a friend's house if she is drunk" and all that stuff and we redpillers end up making out with these same guy's wives when these wives lie to us about their relationship status as "single". Funny, if I am allowed to say so.

Non-mgtow guy wont see how Red Pill and mgtow, like myself, is actually being practical and objective, because what I am saying is not praising women in any way. He hates the advice not because its "hating on women", he hates the advice because it shows how any woman has the incentive, the ability and how she will do something wrong to a man. He hates it not because "I am hating on women", he hates it because I am telling the truth he is not comfortable with. He does not like it because it goes against the mainstream narrative of "not all women are like that. There is a special woman for every man". We all know this line is bullshit, but surprisingly guys like this one form their whole belief system on this stupidity.

When you are being taught your entire life about how women are special unicorns that shit rainbows or something, and all that you learn about relationships is the "just be yourself/communication is key/respecc women they dont owe you" cliche, then obviously you will hate anything and everything that goes against this worldview.

I have been on this sub & TheRedPill(yes I am a redpiller) since 5+ years now(had to change account due to reddit bs). And not even once I saw a post that does not have any factual info in it. Even the memes always share something related to real life, be it a news or something that happens frequently that goes overlooked because it was done by women and happened to men, that any man can see in real life. Everything we say here and everything the red pill teaches you, all of that can be seen in our daily lives. Look at your neighbour's wife, look at your maid, look at your mother, your sister, your female teachers, your colleagues or anyone whom you can observe. If you have good observable capability then its not hard for any man to notice. Its all about how open minded a man is and how indifferently he can see and judge human behavioral patterns.

Being practical about women, individuality, rationality, etc wont make sense to any man who is deep into the high school nerd nonsense called "romantic efernal love" and cliche words like "soulmate/the one/high school sweetheart" etc. It takes maturity to develop rationality and individuality, something that is absent even from our educational system itself which is too busy wiping the asses of new sexualities or the pro women propaganda every week.

ImmaculateDeity · 2020-05-27T19:23:40+00:00

After his 3rd, 4th, maybe even 5th divorce rape, he'll be here! After he hits rock bottom and suicidal thoughts start festering, he'll be here for help looking for a way out. And when he makes his entrance, we will not shame him only show him the way. Whether he chooses to walk in it is up to him but one thing is certain.. If you continue to play with fire, you will get burned and sometimes you don't always survive the burn.

birdsofpreyflopped · 2020-05-27T00:13:33+00:00

Who says there are even shifty people here. Poisoning the well is a thing. CIA did it, social media companies do it to any would be competitors, and as per the fbi study on death threats to sjws....sjws do it to themselves.

Title	What non MGTOWers think of us
Author	countinginsolitude
Upvotes	44
Comments	14
Date	May 26, 2020 10:19 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/gr6zhx/what_non_mgtowers_think_of_us/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/what-non-mgtowers-think-of-us.668096 https://theredarchive.com/post/668096

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