Allowing women to shittest you & wondering/caring if you pass or not is a Beta Trait. Change my mind?

TRPCops · 2020-07-01T15:50:59+00:00

30d ban. This isn't a debate sub faggot. No one cares about your opinions

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spedoid · 2020-07-01T13:39:56+00:00

The way you write is full of half-baked jumps in logic. This makes it difficult to address anything you say since you are constantly relating things to each other under false pretenses. For example, passing a shit test is not "caring" and showing weakness. Cutting a girl out because she shit tests you is stupid. Not all shit tests are blatant disrespect. Some shit tests are just subtle questions, or ways they act.

The only thing you need to know is this. If you are masculine and hold frame, you will pass every shit test. If you explain your point quickly, and logically, and don't argue, you won't get sucked into pointless debates. If you just keep calm, laugh off her bullshit, and be a masculine man, you will pass every shit test. You shouldn't be thinking about how to pass them, because women are fucked up so you're never gonna be able to fully understand the retarded games she is passively agressively playing with you.

You can't control what others do, you can only control your reaction. So if your reactions are always on point, you are training them to act right. That's why holding frame seems like you aren't doing much but it really fucks with a girl big time when they try to do dumb shit to pressure you and you are immune to it. Big dick energy

Laugh off her bullshit, be honest, don't talk to much. Show her that none of her stupid shit affects you at all. It's basic laws of power. It shouldn't be something you overthink or have to put much effort into.

It is simply a mindset. If you have the right mindset you will pass them all and not worry about it. But it takes a lot of work on yourself to be confident enough to have this frame. That's why beta nerds can't "act" alpha. You either are a man or you aren't. Once you improve yourself to a certain level you just pass them because your attitude is right. Your premise was faulty. Get good

metallica11 · 2020-07-01T14:27:39+00:00

others said it. mindset and frame. You'd rather devote your time and energy to other things. she doesn't take up mental space in your head since she has not deserved it yet - you probably barely know her. whether or not you pass or not pass the shit test becomes irrelevant at this point, since you have more important things to focus on and more women/people to talk to.

example: at a bar, women gives you a huge shit test. you slip up, but instead of freaking out about it and creating a post on reddit showing you ruminate over it, you just move on to the next thing in your head. maybe its your buddy, maybe its the next drink you want to order, maybe its the other girl next to you.

anag19 · 2020-07-01T13:40:15+00:00

Look at it this way. Shit tests are a part of life. Women aren’t the only ones who shit test. If you’re working your way up in a corporate setting, you’re going to deal with shit tests from coworkers. Shit tests from your bosses/higher ups. When you’re in a group setting, you’ll have to deal with shit tests from other members if you’re trying to become the alpha of the group. Part of becoming a more secure and red pilled male is being able to comfortably pass these shit tests with wit and composure. That’s why trp emphasizes the importance of learning how to deal with them.

BluzzKill · 2020-07-01T14:04:44+00:00

I actually agree, shit tests and disrespect is not the same. Don't be a sensitive faggot and don't be a goofy doormat.

Whitefarmer · 2020-07-01T13:59:37+00:00

The key is to have frame and not give a fuck. Frame takes care of the shit tests and ZFG takes care of the pedestal. Woman are just trying to see if they can break your frame because if she can that means others can to

bandraboyz · 2020-07-01T14:20:10+00:00

Shit test means do you have the gut to break my jaw. You should know how to pass it.

i-am-the-prize · 2020-07-01T14:45:49+00:00

life isn't binary and neither is "if she shittests = I'm out"

does that mean you put up with disrespect? no:

if she's acting cunty, withdraw
if she's trying to draw blood and create drama, withdraw
but... if she's simply testing, she's programmed to do it, so it means she's interested, so see it as a game against a small simple child who only knows their programming and that they're not aware they're doing it.

sure sure, "but would she shit-test brad pitt or Leo?" muthafucka, you ain't either of those guys so get used to it.

Over time as she tests and you 'pass' just like /u/spedoid says, she will fall into your Frame and into line, then the comfort tests come, because at that point, she knows you're the real deal and is more afraid of losing you, than seeing if you've got the stones.

I've seen someone live like you suppose... one of my bros, who is good with women (as in an N-count of over 500, and he fucks hot chicks not nasty fatties) and in my view he has one downside. he cannot stand a shittest. he will literally will eject a chick from a group event for a basic one. it's his right, but to me its an overreaction, in the end he has so much abundance it doesn't phase him. But i'm not talking an insult, or cunty behavior, just a normal banter/jab with testing overtones, and he just looks at her, cocks his head sideways and tells her to grab her purse and leave.

so sure, you can be like him. but unless you pull 2-3 new lays a week, you're gonna be lonely... he's a rarity when it comes to game and looks and resources.

ComplexProjection · 2020-07-01T15:33:51+00:00

Women who don't shit tests you don't consider you attractive. A shit test is a challenge, a joke, a teasing, anything. It's part of seduction and it can actually be fun.

Being obsessed with passing shit tests is a lack of abundance and self respect, so yeah I agree with yo on that.

alt323g0 · 2020-07-01T15:43:07+00:00

At least for me, the whole point of a shit test is not to care. If people care about "passing the test" then they're doing it wrong, as you point out.

If you simply don't give af about the test, then as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the story, you've handled it correctly. I don't "defend myself" from a shit test because I literally don't give a shit. I don't care if it's a woman trying to get under my skin or a six-year-old calling me a "stupidhead." Why do I care? Why do I need to defend myself? I don't feel any need to prove myself to others.

But for betas who are learning about this stuff, it's important for them to recognize when they're being shit tested and understand it for what it is.

drv12021 · 2020-07-01T15:25:16+00:00

It sounds like you are afraid of shit test.

IXseed · 2020-07-01T15:28:31+00:00

If you have options, why care if you pass or not?

Correct You pass by not giving shit, not by ACTING like you're not giving a shit. Running to Reddit to ask how to pass a shit test means you've failed it and she knows.

The issue I have with your stance is that a lot of guys tend to thing when girls are joking around or even following a guy's lead in joking around take it as a shit test and then get butthurt at getting tested. At the end of the day if you TRULY don't care about a girl then any tests she continues to do shouldn't matter as long as she's doing what you want. Your stances kinda don't jive.

Also ALL women shit test but what guys don't get is that they're more often actions and not words. For instance, a common one girls will do is if you're talking to a a girl at like a bar or something, she'll just leave mid convo and expect you to follow her.

Infernir · 2020-07-01T15:43:51+00:00

It's up to the individual man to establish his rules for his own shit. However it is crucial to never break or bend your own rules. If you don't have any discipline what else protects your freedom? The way I see it if a shit test is once every now and then... depending on your relationship & the type of girl, it could be once every 2 - 3 weeks, once every 2 - 3 months. Its fine.

However if you're constantly getting shit tested every couple days or even every week it's either a toxic relationship or you might want to evaluate the worth of this girl in your life.

Sure, some girls might just have it in their personality and you should ignore most of it, not even consider any of them as true 'shit test', but this is not a good thing either. Settling and accepting a girl with a nasty attitude is unhealthy for your mind & unhealthy for your life. It's also important to know if you're doing this with true abundance or just because she's the sexiest girl you can get. If there's even a tiny tiny possibility its the later demote to plate, if she's already one remove & apply dread.

You should never seek any validation or acceptance from women, or at least strive to not seek it, seeking external validation is a women's way. The only things you should expect from a LTR is 1. Sex 2. Loyalty 3. Fun

The level of respect you're comfortable a women having for you, that's up to you to decide if it's worth breaking a plate or relationship over or not. But again, it's very important we make this distinction here, do you want this level of respect & less shit test because of wanting validation or acceptance?

Title	Allowing women to shittest you & wondering/caring if you pass or not is a Beta Trait. Change my mind?
Author	GrievenLeague
Upvotes	21
Comments	13
Date	July 1, 2020 1:32 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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