Before the whining about "mansplaining" begins, I'm a woman, so don't waste your nail polish.
I hear too often how women "can't tell him" various things bothering her, because "he has a fragile ego." No, you can't tell him these things because you're attacking him and being hateful when you tell him.
You also can't tell him things because you only tell him negative things. You're ungrateful.
If you tell a man, "I like it when a guy gives me chocolates," he'll probably give you chocolates. If you snap at him that maybe you'd forgive him if his lazy ass got up off of the couch and got you some chocolates... You're likely to get only a big argument.
If he gets you the wrong kind of chocolates, and you tell him so with all the fury in your rotten little soul, you're to blame when you get no more chocolates.
If you tell him how much you appreciate how hard he tried, and actually, you know, appreciate that he DID try... And then say that your favorites are X type, but you will enjoy these today because being from him makes them special, you'll get your favorite next time for sure.
And before you stamp your entitled little foot and screech that he should just listen to you no matter how you say it, maybe you should consider the fact that that's the sort of thing a spoiled child would say, not an adult. If you can't be bothered to be thoughtful towards him, you're a spoiled, demanding brat, not a woman.
Appreciate him like loving adults appreciate each other. Consider his feelings, and stop demanding consideration you don't give. Cut the double standard. Don't abuse your partner. Don't talk to him in ways that you'd never tolerate from him.
Oh, and stop being prickly and refusing his help. Let him help; it's not "infantilism," it's partnership and caring. If you're an island, be single. Relationships are not all about you doing everything alone while demanding the other person magically read your mind to know when he's allowed to be a kind human and pitch in.
And if you're not like that, I'm not talking to you.
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Im not sure it was the opinion that proved unpopular. Commenters seemed unhappy with the way it was put across more than anything.
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Ok heres an example I think highlights the problem ‘before you stamp your entitled little foot’ Its written in parts like a bitchy missive to the rest of us generally awful women. Thats always going to get ladies flexing their claws
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It is, I agree. Its controversial, its not what women are used to being told. So its gonna get a reaction whatever. And snippyness just gives readers an excuse to disengage. Laura Doyle for example puts the message across in a less combative and more older sister style.
[–]ban1chka9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow that post was so mean. OP should listen to her own advice. She said that if we want people to do as we wish, we should say it in a way that encourages them to listen, instead of being angry and mean and, "screeching and stomping our feet". I agree with that. But then she goes on to belittle the very same women she's talking to. Very unkind, very impolite and not feminine at all.
Besides, insuring proper communication in a relationship is a responsibility shared by both partners (or friends, if we are talking about a friendship). A while back I said something that upset a friend. Instead of getting angry with me, he explained how what I said made him feel and why. I apologized, explained what I meant. We communicated and made things better. If he had blown up in my face instead or just been upset with me without an explanation, how would we have fixed it? My best friend is also male and we have the same type of communication. If I would like for him to do something for me, I tell him. If he would prefer I do things a certain way, he tells me. As many people have already pointed out, it's a two way street.
In conclusion, I really dislike the whole energy of this post. I think it's inaccurate, greatly exaggerated and very mean.
[–]Pola_Lita2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nail polish?
I've never met anyone who acted the way OP describes unless they were part of a comedy skit. And TBH, OP sounds a lot more interested in attacking this terrible woman than she does about sharing her tips for more effective communication.
Translation: She may be no more likely to respect the premise of the forum she's using to express herself, or any opposing POV's, or any less-than-hyper-diplomatically voiced commentary any more than she is capable of understanding there are two sides to even terrible women's situations.
At any rate, OP's post doesn't give me any real sense of her own level of skill with any type of communication and considering the topic, it seems like it ought to.
[–]HappilyMrs7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I do think generally that men don't handle criticism well, even when it is constructive. But then nor do women. It isn't something we are normally taught, and we as s species tend to tie our self-worth to the opinions others have about us. We need to be teaching kids to be their own point of origin and not be as vulnerable to the opinions of others.
[–]MoDuReddit0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You should see how women react to being rejected. Absolute shit flinging REEEEing.