How is it that hard..

GroundbreakingAd7585 · 2021-01-29T17:29:04+00:00

Almost every MGTOW story I see is, "So after my divorce..."

Cade_Connelly_2021 · 2021-01-29T20:12:04+00:00

"mostly edgy teenagers"

Riiiight...maybe 10 years ago...

Now it's mostly 20 & 30 somethings who are in the 80 part of the 80/20 equation and finally figuring it out after being lied to their entire lives.

realChebz · 2021-01-29T19:31:04+00:00

You're falling victim to divide and conquer tactic.. this chart is something only weak man would use to get a pat on head from feminists by throwing his brothers under the bus... aka "no, THOSE men are bad, we - we ARE good little boys here, please dont hate us!".

LiberiAdExtremum · 2021-01-29T18:44:21+00:00

The people who are against mgtow need something to attack it with.

ZarBandit · 2021-01-29T17:31:35+00:00

They’re not interested in understanding men. Understanding affords them no benefit. They’re only interested in what they can extract.

Understanding confers no positive value on extraction. But shaming and manipulation can be converted to more effective extraction.

And hey presto, wouldn’t you know that’s exactly what happens in practice.

saiwat · 2021-01-29T22:53:33+00:00

As a rule, I offer my respect to anyone until proven contrary. Respect does not give them any kind of "access" to me, so it is safe to be neutral and respectful to anyone. However, offering admiration is an entirely different thing, and I think that's what OP means.

Not respecting women would be to simp/harass them. I respect them by going my own way.

pewdsxtseries · 2021-01-29T20:36:55+00:00

Fuck i never got married, means I'm an incel.

cries and wipes tears with banknotes

J310x · 2021-01-29T22:26:04+00:00

People equate MGTOW with incels because it's an easy way to win an argument.

ActualSteveRogers · 2021-01-29T23:18:58+00:00

Well, I am mgtow but I have never been in a relation before and I'm still a teen.... because after living with my single mom for 16 years and two more to go, I've already decided I don't want any of that nasty stuff I hear on here to happen to me

2021-01-30T02:13:07+00:00

Not all young men who cant get laid are those things..

that’s unfair to

assume..

im so glad I’m in my 40s tho..

must suck to be young in clown world

CDEDC · 2021-01-29T21:41:37+00:00

There are blue pilled incels and red pilled incels. They don't care about incels unless those incels start seeing the reality of women that's why they say MGTOW-incels just like they said a few years ago redpilled=incel and PUA=incel. In fact I think most male feminists are either incels or doormats to their GFs.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2021-01-29T23:07:32+00:00

I made a similar topic here and the reason why the mafiastream media mislabels us as incels is because they're afraid. The powerful don't attack those that they do not fear. And since they can't debunk us with facts, logic, reason, or evidence, their only options left are slander, censorship, or violence.

IceyBear988 · 2021-01-30T01:55:09+00:00

The difference between MGTOW and Incel is MGTOW accepted the female nature as how it is, we are nothing but a resource for them since cave man days. There is no such romantics shown by movies or literature or any media reflects IRL as the sole purpose of the relationship. Incel still hopes and dreams of such expectations but not realizing women aren't capable of natural loyalty and beyond the resources like men does, MGTOW don't hate women, we just hate dealing with their bullshit.

This chart isn't quite detailed or accurate, you can have someone married and divorced multiple times and still be incel because he still hopes that true love exists but they primarily wants sex (got withheld sex unless they pay up) and ended up hating women but still hoping to find that unicorn in next marriage.

When a Incel truly understands female nature, they stop hating them and realize it's a waste of energy to do so. Have them reading The Manipulated Man, see their mind blown.

javaman131 · 2021-01-30T05:48:16+00:00

Honestly, in my mid 20s I was an incel (before that was a thing, the internet was barely alive yet). It's sort of an extreme of red pill rage. I went from super blue-pill mega simp, and as that wasn't working and constantly being told "they will love you when they are older" all through highschool and college (which I do know is true, but not for me, but for my money).

Eventually when I got to my mid 30's and I really started to flash my money around to try and get women, sure it worked but I knew they just wanted my money and I'm a frugal person and it was hard for me to find pleasure in sex after I just spent 200$ on dinner just so I could get that luxury.

Eventually I became mgtow, before I even knew what it was, I think this is the case for a lot of mgtow, they are out there, just in hiding doing their own shit.

Not all incel's can be saved, many WANT to be simps and want to be loved, others like myself learn it's futile and move on from the rage. But they can only save themselves.

bestbegreat · 2021-01-30T06:16:00+00:00

Never been married fucked a bunch of women and saw their true nature in the process. I agree with most but the good job part was stupid. It's hard finding a good job where you don't deal with pc bullshit. If you mean getting paid well then i agree. But at this point IDC about sex as much. Women are becoming more unstable everyday.ive just accumulate resources instead. More fulfilling and makes me feel productive. It's weird, even if you fuck alot of bitches looking back it's meaningless.

aniani04 · 2021-01-30T03:19:25+00:00

I've seen through women since I was a kid, and was always pointing the differences to my father, wondering if others can see what I see.
After going through shitload of women, I acquired more knowledge I can bare, it became my curse seeing women for what they really are without the distraction of the dick... FUCKING SCARY at first.
Then I came across MGTOW, when I started reading what they're preaching, it's everything I knew with extra. It was a relief knowing there are other fuckers who can see what I see.

alsargeant312 · 2021-01-30T03:25:11+00:00

few have ever been in relationships

Do you call zero "few"?

redditradishman · 2021-01-30T12:19:52+00:00

Honestly I wish more incels would go full on MGTOW. They cope by calling it MSTOW (sent) and even if that were true... isn't that the smartest thing to do? I browse a lot of incel forums and subs... and dudes literally still doing what they can to play the game. Chatting women up on discords and then crying when they reject them once pics are exchanged... having hope for surgeries to "ascend" but somehow being against escorts. Either way you're paying for it.

Like a good chunk still have delusions of "moneymaxxing" in order to be a betabux. Incels define "one bj away from the plantation".

Honestly I first learned of MGTOW I wanna say 2012 because an incel would promote it and the rest of the board usually scoffed at that.

It's the best medicine they can take. It's one thing to roll your eyes at PUA Snakeoil salesman, but mgtow can literally save your lives. But they're too far gone with the pussy worship.

intelatominside · 2021-01-30T13:06:36+00:00

I guess the incels are smarter not getting married in the first place. Voluntary or not.

Title	How is it that hard..
Author	WarPlungers
Upvotes	121
Comments	30
Date	January 29, 2021 5:19 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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