If you experienced depression, I have a question for you.

wallpunchist · 2016-12-12T08:47:29+00:00

You want to take on depression on your own? You can of course try, but I'd say that's not something that a depressed person can tackle. You can combat your own fears, traumatic past events and troublesome childhood, you can force yourself back on two feet but you can't do "fake it till you make it" with happiness.

Depending on classification system, depression is either an illnes or a disorder. It's not about your mindset, it's about flawed brain chemistry. It's your brain telling you "hey you worthless piece of shit, me, your life is worthless, your friends and loved ones hate you, because who'd love such a piece of shit like you, and nothing's ever going to get better".

When you suffer from tonsillitis or pneumonia, you don't get healthy by chasing "state of normalness" and actively wanting to be healthy. You swallow antibiotics, because you organism is malfunctioning. Depression is a permament lockdown in a state of sadness by flawed chemistry. You're not able to experience true happiness. You can only have fun, but how much is that fun worth? The moment it ends, you return to the default state of depression and BAM, you're hitting rock bottom again. And after that brief moment of fun, it hurts even more.

Your brain is in hamstering mode. It's shifting your perspective all the time. Just like women with that "I loved him, but I don't love him today, so I never loved him, so I love him but I'm not in love, so I must cheat on him" spiel. Your brain tells you there never was any true fun in the first place.

i can do implement this into my life: "i won't let anything to stop me from being happy" but i wonder if my subcouncious will accept that over time, or am i just faking it?

Yes, you're faking it. You can fake a happy life, but on some days you'll wake up in the middle of the night and feel completely empty. You'll never feel that growing emotion of true happiness inside you that you should feel.

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MeatCurtainRod · 2016-12-12T17:02:02+00:00

Yes. This is a very good stance on depression. Contrary to popular belief, depression never actually goes away. What changes, however, is your ability to cope with your depression to the point where it doesn't seem to exist anymore. Further contrary to popular belief, EVERYONE has a degree of depression in them, so literally anyone can fall and become depressed. There is no silver lining. Finally contrary to popular belief, you can work your way out of depression. The FIRST step is to remove yourself from triggers that may bring it on so that you can move forward more easily.

SOURCE: unlike most self diagnosing idiots who boast about mental illnesses because it is a cool trend, I, like every other TRULY MEDICALLY DIAGNOSED patients, you don't actually know you're depressed. To you, life is normal life.

Aaren_Augustine · 2016-12-12T08:33:20+00:00

I used to be very manic. I think what he means about letting go of the rope is to stop being a victim. People will say depression is a medical issue like a virus they've contracted, rather than a deficiency fully in your control to change.

I am on the MRP side and the amount of work I've had to do in order to get here has been astronomical. Most will never get through that because medication.

To be honest, I'm finding that my mental state has been a lack of discipline. Nothing more.

vorverk · 2016-12-12T10:32:16+00:00

My thought process goes like this: OK. I don't have my left hand. I can cry in the corner for the rest of my life and feel sorry for myself for not having left hand. I can envy people having left hand because they can do so much more. OR. I can accept that I don't have left hand and try to make the best out of my life without one hand.

Replace "don't have left hand" with "have depression".

Not sure if Tyler meant the same thing. Not sure if you need the same thought process.

Terdmuffin · 2016-12-12T13:38:56+00:00

Get some help brother. See a counselor. Don't worry about finding a "red pill" counselor at first. Just find one. Give it a chance.

You're focusing on the what, and you need to be focusing on the why. You have enough self awareness to realize things are wrong. That's good because a lot of people lack that. But very rarely does someone (especially someone with faulty thought processes) have the introspection to really answer why these emotions and faulty thought processes are there and have the ability to fix it on their own.

Rooi_Aap · 2016-12-12T15:33:37+00:00

Meds was the ladder to get me out of the pit, CBT kept me from falling in again. Both needed a professional.

Auvergnat · 2016-12-12T15:38:12+00:00

1: Verify what's your issue by going visit a professional.

2: If depression is confirmed, your first step is accepting it is an illness to be treated, not some trivial bad "state of mind" that you feel you should be able to tackle on your own by over-analyzing your situation and inventing some new personal concepts. The "depression is an illness" mindset is important. You don't "just shake off" depression because watching a youtube video just gave you some new insight on "how to see your life under a different light", just like watching a youtube video on a new perspective to understand the common cold will magically cure you of the common cold.

3: Treat the illness by attacking on all fronts at the same time. This means:

See a (male) therapist to talk about it.
Get the appropriate prescription drugs and follow the advised dosage and duration.
Reach and maintain a healthier lifestyle: healthy diet + enough sleep + regular exercise + be social enough.
Develop routines to give yourself a sense of control over your life.

4: Stick through it. You feel like you're doing better after a month already? Don't fucking stop. Stick to the treatment. Tell yourself this illness is not one that gets fixed fast. Stick through the fucking treatment & only gradually slow down on it after you've spend a few months "feeling normal".

Nikelu · 2016-12-12T18:41:28+00:00

See a doctor or a psychologist, if it's early you can deal with it without medication hopefully. That's what I did and it saved me

do_it_or_leave · 2016-12-13T01:17:56+00:00

I never went to a doctor. So I don't know if I was clinically depressed or not. I was too afraid of asking for help.

Everytime it was because of doing something I knew wasn't good to myself. When I had to constantly fight against my will to keep going because I knew I was sabotaging myself. Let me tell you about this part of my life.

I realised my uni was shit, and I was really behind people studying at better uni. My work was repetitive and didn't required Any creativity, only being able to operate a software and to compare images. I had no money, no pussy, nothing I loved. The only reason I didn't killed myself was to not disappoint my parents. I ended up quitting my work when I was thinking I'd rather jump on the rails instead of going to work another day because of how exhausted bored and frustrated I was. I ended in my room all day playing wow, I got addicted, and ended stopping going to classes. I used to stay all night in my Computer to avoid seeing people during the day. I failed 4/5 classes I had that semester. Took me almost 8 months to recover. There is more shit, but I think you can picture my life pretty well.

I had to decide to continue or stop my graduation. I had to find a new job. I had to go outside and get some sun. Exercise and going outside and get some sun was key to my readaptation. It gave me the mental clarity i needed to solve my problems.

I had to face my bad decisions like when I choose to join this uni and decide what were going to be better for my life in the long run. Took a long time to figure my options and how to proceed. I could quit and try to start again, or keep going and complete my studies with topics I considered essential later. The turning point was looking what I had, checking my options and sticking to my chosen path. I made a choice and wasn't just flowing with the river anymore. It wasn't that bad to miss things I knew I was missing because it was part of my plan. It all happened 5 years ago, now I am better than I ever was. I followed my plan, finished my degree, got valuable experience and enjoy my current job. Now I have resources and options. I still have some struggles about my love life, my professional life, my country isn't going well I wonder if I should move out or try to start my own business here or keep going with my now comfort zone job that I enjoy and pays enough, and gives me invaluable experience by working with amazing professionals, but will never make me rich or financially independent. I know I will do great, no matter what I decide to do. Right now I want to enjoy a little to compensate for all I worked and had to do to be here. To me happiness comes from taking the wheel of my life and trying to do things I thought were out of my reach.

Ups and downs are part of our lines. We have to deal with it. My plan is my safeguard when I am sad or demotivated. I just hope to never get so bad as 5 years ago. I can't do that to myself again.

LLL3peat · 2016-12-13T05:27:23+00:00

I have it. It's biological and genetic but I never took any drugs for it. Never got help. Can't sit still. Always have to be doing something.

I turned my boredom and depression into a game of when I feel down I go to the gym. Get those endorphins going. Surround myself with people but don't interact with them really.

I did utilize the school psych to talk about random things that bothered me. And by talking about it with one person or any person, allows you to get through it and it leaves you behind. It's like when women ask for closure.

Title	If you experienced depression, I have a question for you.
Author	lifeisnotverygood
Upvotes	24
Comments	17
Date	December 12, 2016 7:54 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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