Couple of publications recognizing the poisonous subs on Reddit

Ody_ssey · 2021-05-26T14:20:53+00:00

Earlier some journalist on Vice praised about FDS. This time some other journalist tricked FDS mods for an interview. They answered all questions only to find out that journalist wrote everything against them. Even media doesn't like FDS.

DevOwner · 2021-05-26T14:30:16+00:00

Ganesh is a total simp in the end (Vice article).

Lion_amongst_gods · 2021-05-26T14:51:23+00:00

Vice

decent publication

That's how I know you're either naive or lying.

antifeminist3 · 2021-05-27T00:59:00+00:00

"The problem this kind of misandry presents is fully dwarfed by misogyny, simply because of the power of the patriarchy… Men’s rights activists and white supremacists have actual access to power structures.” -- Vice

At first I was surprised that the article actually recognized the existence of misandry, but immediately minimized the problem.

tenchineuro · 2021-05-27T02:41:36+00:00

“The manosphere has an army of men dedicated to creating new ways to exploit and abuse women,” an FDS spokesperson tells VICE. “We bring attention to women of the various ways men are exploiting us – actively and passively – so we can avoid it.”

Say whut?

As well as putting men into the same “essentialist categories” as the men’s rights movement did with women, Ganesh says, FDS also presents “a lot of the same theories and ideas that you saw in the manosphere; particularly this idea that men are scriptable, and we should adjust our lives and presentation to filter out the ones that want and get rid of the ones that we don’t want”.

Say whut?

He also points out that, like FDS, much of the content on the manosphere was spawned from the “self-help” genre (take the pick up artistry of The Game, or men’s rights hero Jordan Peterson’s 12 Rules For Life). They started as empowering but, as conspiracy theories began to circulate and hate speech became more normalised, they descended into something darker. While FDS is still nowhere near as hateful as the Red Pill movement, Ganesh still says that “it’s heading in that direction”.

Must always protect the wimmin it seems.

“It is misandrist,” he says simply. “It’s about the reduction of people to ridiculous, facile stereotypes.” That said, he acknowledges that it’s unlikely to ever become a serious threat. “The problem this kind of misandry presents is fully dwarfed by misogyny, simply because of the power of the patriarchy… Men’s rights activists and white supremacists have actual access to power structures.”
Even if FDS is unlikely to develop into anything more concerning, it’s still not going to help – either as a solution to women’s dating woes, or as a patriarchy-smashing strategy. “Playing games, trying to belittle and use men in the way that perhaps women have been used historically is only going to alienate men,” warns Mansfield. “This could create a deeper and more toxic rift between the sexes.”

Yep, that's Vice. No matter who does what, it's all men's fault.

PARAN01D_R1GHT01D · 2021-05-26T16:28:34+00:00

I'm still not convinced FDS is real. It seems like a bunch of RadFems posting satire, or maybe a bunch of 4Chan types just trolling for trolling's sake. If FDS is serious then that's very concerning because most of the content in FDS is straight up retarded and they contradict themselves every other post.

2021-05-26T16:19:25+00:00

I read the two articles and it's good news.

SamaelET · 2021-05-26T16:29:07+00:00

This was surprising (in a good way) :

UK dating coach Kate Mansfield agrees: “While women are still suffering the consequences of being sexualised into roles and patterns that are incredibly destructive to intimate relationships, modern men are also confused, undermined and suffering emotionally.”

This waw not surprising (in a bad way) :

“It is misandrist,” he says simply. “It’s about the reduction of people to ridiculous, facile stereotypes.” That said, he acknowledges that it’s unlikely to ever become a serious threat. “The problem this kind of misandry presents is fully dwarfed by misogyny, simply because of the power of the patriarchy… Men’s rights activists and white supremacists have actual access to power structures.”

ImportantResults · 2021-05-26T21:01:32+00:00

I'd totally love to start a really decent sub about dating and relationships.

I hope not like my failed r/AskHonestMen though. lol

Title	Couple of publications recognizing the poisonous subs on Reddit
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Date	May 26, 2021 2:08 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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