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University Said Accuser Was ‘Conflicting And Unreliable,’ But Still Found Accused Student Guilty. A Court Just Overturned The School’s Finding.

JohnKimble111

April 3, 2021
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/university-said-accuser-was-conflicting-and-unreliable-but-still-found-accused-student-guilty-a-court-just-overturned-the-schools-finding
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Title University Said Accuser Was ‘Conflicting And Unreliable,’ But Still Found Accused Student Guilty. A Court Just Overturned The School’s Finding.
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JohnKimble111

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Date April 3, 2021 2:20 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
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Comments

[–]dukunt 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Bring back "no means no"

This whole asking for consent at every step of the way is ridiculous. Why is it always the man that is expected to ask for consent? Why not the women? Consent is a two-way street. I can see why men are refusing to have sex with women these days. There are just too many risks involved.

[–]SaveThyme 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband and I joking ask for consent all the time.

"may i look at you?" I consent

" I DID NOT CONSENT YO YOU KICKING ME IN THE BUTT!"

"oops! I forgot to consent!" winky face

[–]SuperSupremeKai 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is it always the man that is expected to ask for consent? Why not the women?

Don't you know? Men cannot be raped! Thus consent is absolutely wasted on them!

/s

[+]MrProficient1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

The hard part that I got caught up on was the statement

At the hearing, Jane claimed that she never told John to stop or verbally communicated a lack of consent in anyway,

I mean, what? If she had said no, or told him to stop, and he didn't then fine lets hang him by his dick. But if you don't communicate that your not comfortable, how is the guy to know?

[–]liberalbutnotcrazy 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not only that, she asked him if he had a condom before they had sex.

Is that not implied consent?

Or is she just curious about his condom collection

[–]MrProficient -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That might be true, but even if she did ask him if he had a condom, she could remove her consent at any time by simply saying stop or no more. Consent can be removed at any time and it's perfectly acceptable to respect that. I still think my point is the highest level of validity in that if you don't physically say something at any point, to me that means you are giving consent. At any point she could have asked him to stop and if he didn't then that would cross the line. However, she admitted at no point did she say no or stop or give any other kind of verbal statement implying that she was not giving consent.

[–]andejoh 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One problem with affirmative consent combined with the preponderance of the evidence standard is there is no grey area. I know that was the intent, but what would finding him not responsible mean? It means it's more likely than not she CONSENTED through the ENTIRE encounter. That means she lied.

IMO if one lies about someone raping them, they've created a hostile environment for that person in the same vien as somebody who raped someone. This should be a Title IX violation. From what I understand, school officials who are aware of a Title IX violation are REQUIRED to address it. It does not require the target to file a complaint.

I doubt many if any false accusers we're sanctioned in college kangaroo court.

[–]40moreyears 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t be caught dead alone with a woman in college these days.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What

[–]drtapp39 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sue those clowns

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