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Boys as young as 12 being brought up to feel like they are a piece of shit purely for being born male. Girls being brought up to already think they are victims. Let’s see how this helps the mental health crisis. This is so sad

rememberallegedly

April 3, 2021
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/schoolboys-made-to-apologise-for-stuff-we-didnt-do-during-assembly-about-sexual-assault-12260783
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Title Boys as young as 12 being brought up to feel like they are a piece of shit purely for being born male. Girls being brought up to already think they are victims. Let’s see how this helps the mental health crisis. This is so sad
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rememberallegedly

Upvotes 79
Comments 7
Date April 3, 2021 7:55 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mj43gp/boys_as_young_as_12_being_brought_up_to_feel_like/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/boys-as-young-as-12-being-brought-up-to-feel-like.831481
https://theredarchive.com/post/831481
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It’s great we’re now teaching 12 year olds they should feel bad and apologise to women for the acts of deranged others. Creating a generation of females with a victim hood mentality and a generation of pre-teen boys who are being told being a man is a terrible thing.

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April 3, 2021
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[+]Master-Strategy6482 -12 points-11 points-10 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No one is telling boys they are pieces of “Shit”, they are trying to raise them in a way so that they don't fall victim to toxic masculinity. This causes so many problems, I won't deny that men find it harder to express vulnerability but a lot of that is because of other men. Women have time and time again said they don't mind or even prefer a man who is open about feelings. Girls aren't raised to believe they are victims, but they grow to understand that everything they do will be sexualised and therefore need to be prepared for that eventuality

[–]pappo4ever 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

they don't fall victim to toxic masculinity. This causes so many problems,

What you call "toxic masculinity" is natural masculinity. You are teaching boys to hate themselves for what they naturally are. This never ends ok. You either end up with depression, or completely rebel and become violent against authority, like you should be if authority says that you are toxic.

I won't deny that men find it harder to express vulnerability

Because our brain works in this way. And we are fine being like this.

Women have time and time again said they don't mind or even prefer a man who is open about feelings.

They say this, but it's a lie, no matter how much you repeat this lie, women will never be attracted to emotional men. because its not natural for a man to be like that.

[–]UnconventionalXY -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because of diversity, some men will be more emotional than others and this is natural for them.

Why can't we accept people being as they are individually, instead of trying to shoehorn everyone into limiting binary stereotypes?

I agree that we still need to accept the reality of natural masculinity.

We seem to ignore that we are expressions of our fundamental biology that is naturally divided by our sex roles and is immutable. Males will always be driven to pursue sex and, unfortunate as it may be, females are largely the object of that pursuit.

From a fundamental perspective, women are sex objects, but that is not necessarily all they are.

If women are uncomfortable with their biological role, then instead of demonising men for being who they are and demanding they suppress their natural expression, perhaps we need to find alternatives for that expression which honours the desires of both parties.

The most obvious solution is to facilitate the opportunity for a man who wants sex with a woman who doesn't, at that time, to have access to a woman who does. Our views about monogamy prevent this happening, so in the interests of giving women what they want, perhaps they should be changed to facilitate polygamy.

Increased access to prostitution is a possibility, however that means forcing a man to pay for something that is otherwise offered freely in exchange: open to corruption, coercion and extortion.

Another alternative is to give men the right to have consensual sex with other men. This has been largely prohibited up till now by the entrenched conditioning of homophobia. Men lend a hand and tools in domestic projects, or engage in recreational activities with their fellow man, so why is lending a hand or engaging in sexual expression so distasteful: it's only recreational sex? Men are also more sexually compatible with other men due to their shared biology. Anything men do together is not only inherently masculine, it provides an opportunity to better explore the possibilities of pleasure for men.

By providing greater options for men to express their sexuality, there should be no need to harass or take what they want by force. Consequently, sexual harassment or assault should be seen as serious crimes.

When someone steals through hunger, we should not punish that person, but ensure they don't go hungry.

I urge men to start to challenge the homophobia that has gripped society for too long and artificially manipulated their choices, in order to eliminate sexual harassment and assault from the lives of all women.

[–]Famous-Beautiful-731 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls aren't raised to believe they are victims, but they grow to understand that everything they do will be sexualised and therefore need to be prepared for that eventuality

That IS being raised to be a victim. Someone finding you attractive is not punishment. You don't need to get revenge on people because they like you.

That's just evil, pure and simple.

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you define what "toxic masculinity" is? Thank you.

[+]arn4561 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]RepostSleuthBot 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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