Women’s arrogance and the downfall of assortive mating.

TempestTcup · 2013-10-03T14:58:17+00:00

I just read that! I think that these sort of scenarios are more pronounced in the larger cities and the younger females. I see assortive mating constantly in the very small city where I live. I see tons of people married forever. Of course, there is the flip side and I know a bunch of old sluts and quite a few MGTOWs. Back in the day we called them bachelors.

And I love the young guys who give older women a 0 or a negative SMV (like every male on the planet wants a 20yo for kids) when there are PLENTY of older guys going after older women. My sister was pretty damned popular when she was widowed, and now has a cute boy toy 3 years younger.

sugarcrush · 2013-10-03T15:13:41+00:00

I think the majority of this article is spot on, although I'm not sure arrogance is the right word. Is it really arrogant to believe you are higher value than you actually are when that is what you have been told your entire life by parents, teachers, friends, media, most men, etc? I feel like arrogance is more of an internal quality.

wallismdw · 2013-10-03T16:30:00+00:00

I think this is pretty interesting, especially the burb in the comments about class. Higher income men and women have not suffered nearly the same decline in marriage rate that lower or middle class people have.

many young women have spent a significant portion of their youth “punching above their weight” in the sexual market place, which has given them a false sense of their own attractiveness as a mate, which they then attempt to carry over into the marriage market place.

I'm a little confused about what they mean by the "marriage marketplace" and the "sexual marketplace". Don't most marriage relationships start the same way a short term relationship would start? (Boy meets girl, boy asks girl out...)

Until a couple breaks up or gets engaged, how would either know what marketplace they were in?

2013-10-03T21:02:20+00:00

Eh, in my own experience, men and women are both guilty of this shit nowadays. The difference is that we congratulate women about it, and denigrate men ("you go girl!" vs. "omg men are so shallow").

Who wants to start a "quit being such a bunch of assholes" social movement?

wallismdw · 2013-10-03T17:01:57+00:00

interesting that the entire point of the 1000+ pages of my favorite book , gone with the wind, is assortative mating. the whole book can be summed up by gerald ohara's admonishment to scarlett that shed never be happy with ashley because "only when like marries like" can there be happiness, and her life of chasing him while refusing to recognize rhett is almost her soul mate, even though he knows it quite well, leads to loss and misery

wallismdw · 2013-10-03T20:33:41+00:00

Women still generally get married to their equals. And women wait to get married until they're older because men also want to wait until they are older. And financially they can't handle marriage until they are older. I graduate school soon and may need to live far away next year. If I met a man this year and I had to choose between financially supporting myself and getting food and shelter or having a boyfriend, id choose the job. It's not hypergamy or hook up culture. This guy spends too much time on the Internet.

Edit: I may have to relocate to work and obtain food water shelter due to this bad economy

crankypants15 · 2013-10-07T12:06:56+00:00

Guy here. I agree with the writer's main message, but the way she phrased some things made some generalizations, which are not helpful.

Men are attracted to youth, but many modern women don’t seriously consider marriage until they are older.

This can be a problem because the woman's "biological clock is ticking" resulting in pressuring the man to have children when the couple may not be financially ready.

Many women are less physically attractive (due to factors such as obesity, tattooing, unfeminine dress and so on)

78% of Americans are overweight or obese (WHO, 2010). This is the most recent data I could find. Not all fat people have medical problems, but the rate of medical problems increases a lot as weight increases. An obese person can be a financial liability. 90% of overweight people do not lose the weight (per my doctor). That is a lifetime liability.

Most modern women have been sexually promiscuous. Even Christian women often have slept with more than one man. Men are sexually attracted to sluts but find them less appealing for marriage.

IMO using partner count as the ONLY issue for disqualification seems silly. Yes there are trends with promiscuous people, there are also exceptions.

Modern women lack humility and gratitude.

This is a major problem for 90% of my dates. And it disqualifies them from LTR. I can try to choose better women, but I'm also limited by my dating pool and I refuse to travel more than 1 hour to find a date. I want them closer so I can see them more and get to know them.

Offensive_Brute · 2013-10-03T18:34:48+00:00

I wish i could blame this one on women and feminism, but I know I don't even look at girls I consider to be in my bracket. Its not a conscious thing, I'm just not attracted to them. Even when they are attracted to me I typically fail to engage them while in pursuit of a more attractive albeit less suitable mate. its something that I've broken myself from recently, but then I find as a man its easier as you get older. I know its not the same for everybody but I have found that young women are often much more receptive to me at 29 than they were when I was their age.

Title	Women’s arrogance and the downfall of assortive mating.
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Date	October 3, 2013 2:20 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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