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Be laser-focused on the Law: In the UK, another step in dismantling men's defense against rape charges: sexual invitations by text are not evidence of consent, and trauma-informed theory can explain inconsistencies and gaps in the accuser's memory.

Cryptolexicon

October 20, 2020
53 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-british-rape-prosecution-guidelines-advise-to-ignore-sexts-explicit-images-in-cases
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Title Be laser-focused on the Law: In the UK, another step in dismantling men's defense against rape charges: sexual invitations by text are not evidence of consent, and trauma-informed theory can explain inconsistencies and gaps in the accuser's memory.
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Cryptolexicon

Upvotes 53
Comments 10
Date October 20, 2020 4:03 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jesgwg/be_laserfocused_on_the_law_in_the_uk_another_step/
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its just the continuation of prosecutions for men in the U.K. 95% incarcerated are men. Women are now always "victims" and never preparators.

No country for old men, or young!

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Breaking News: Women making false-rape accusations, can also explain "inconsistencies" and "gaps" in the accuser's memory.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't dispute the possibility of trauma affecting memory, but the problem is this would also cut the other way, where they don't remember accurately other things, like the identity of the accused, or which other sexual encounters they had that were consensual.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"trauma-informed theory"

"gender-sensitive law"

"social justice"

These guys are the true disciples of George Orwell.

[–]Mycroft033 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They even use the term ‘groupthink’ which he used (pretty sure) and soon thought crime will be a thing lol

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I know he used 'doublethink', but 'groupthink' I'm not sure.

[–]Mycroft033 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmmm, you could be right, I’d have to look it up. I remember ‘doublethink’ too, but now I’m not sure about ‘groupthink’ anymore lol.

[–]Rockbottom503 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

None of this is of any surprise to me - it's all been about getting the conviction figures moving in the 'right' direction for decades. The CPS has been placed under enormous pressure to prosecute cases that don't stand up to scrutiny and the police to only gather evidence to convict for a long time; these tactics haven't worked so the machine has kicked back into low gear and is just slowly changing the goalposts for what constitutes as evidence.

[–]DiamondDiggler 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So basically,

women can text the guy "I want sex", voluntarily sleep with him, accuse him of rape with stories full of fallacies, and send the guy to jail.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

[–]LegendaryEmu1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty soon other people will be able to make accusations on the behalf of women who are actively objecting to it.

How the hell is a text consent not consent? I will grant you some are a little more subtle, but it is defined as sexts and explicit images.

The new guidance is just one of several suggestions that the Crown Prosecution Service has made as it attempts to address record-low rape convictions in England and Wales

Wait wait wait... So to address a low conviction rate they seek to...remove things that help clarify the situation, aka evidence? Doesn't that seem...i don't know, biased as hell, illegal, unjust, probably some other stuff?

trauma-informed theory

I should really look up this, it keeps popping in. Most people when they experience something awful don't have memory lapses, its etched into their brain for all time. What they're trying to describe is just...repressed memories, trauma induced theory is likely, like many things these days, popped up in the last decade and is total crap.

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