How can I talk to my girlfriend about feminism?

iainmf · 2020-07-21T04:21:13+00:00

I recommend How to Have Impossible Conversations, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay

The basic idea is to talk about how people know what they know, not try to convince them with facts. The idea being that if people realise that they don't have a good reason for knowing what they know they will start to doubt that it is completely true.

For example, I have had conversations like this:

A: Women have been oppressed throughout all time and for all of history

B: How do you come to that conclusion?

A: Here's a list of bad things that happened to women that proves it.

B: Did you consider the bad things that happened to men?

A: No

B: What if the situation was worse for men, would you still say women were oppressed?

A: No, but things weren't worse for men.

Now you have introduced some a small amount of doubt and a way of testing if what she believes was true. It's a small step. A possible next step would be to ask how can we determine if a group is oppressed.

GalileosTele · 2020-07-21T04:31:06+00:00

I wouldn't even bother with first wave feminism until maybe much farther down the road. That movement has nothing to do with feminism today, which is the result of second wave feminism.

You can start with this video of Camille Paglia who predates 2nd wave feminism as was right in the middle of its creation, witnessing the seriously deranged women who led it. She explains how it was riddled with man hatred form the start.

You can also show her some Erin Pizzey interviews about her experience with feminist zealots. She's the first woman in the world to open women's shelters, in case you don't know her.

SamuelLBronkowitz20 · 2020-07-21T05:23:54+00:00

Read “The Feminist Lie” available at Amazon and on kindle. The author takes a man entirely data-based and resource-driven approach, leveraging all information from reputable sources, and demonstrates why feminism is really nothing more than a hate movement. Fascinating read.

2020-07-21T05:34:51+00:00

I just tend to play things off as fun. I remember making friends with a disabled (half deaf) gay guy with two dads while working on a film project together. I was open about my more right wing opinions and he disagreed but anytime he made a point I just dropped my information but i did it in a way that was almost sarcastic. We still butt heads, but doing it sarcastically gave the impression that its okay to think differently, like its no different than arguing about whether or not your sports team is better than theirs.

like with most things that are true, saying it around someone enough times will make them start to question the narrative they've been fed their whole lives. It was funny cuz this gay boy had to come out to his two dads as a trump supporter. One even said 'i don't accept you, you can't vote for him'. it was hilarious.

now he does the same thing, just dropping little red pills innocently and sarcastically anytime he has the chance and watching his friends get really confused when they can't rationalize a point against it.

shateredmind · 2020-07-21T07:27:26+00:00

Stop the relationships it only goes downhill from here

Title	How can I talk to my girlfriend about feminism?
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Date	July 21, 2020 3:36 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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