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[–]lostapwbm 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doublethink:
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.” ― George Orwell, 1984.
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.”
― George Orwell, 1984.
[–]LabTech41 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Like most feminists, the rules are really only as clear as the needs of the moment need them to be; that's why so many on the left can hold Biden and Kavanaugh to polar opposite standards, even though Reade's claims are at least far more substantiated. The Reps never attempted to protect Kavanaugh nearly as much as the Dems have done with their boy.
There's never been a credible claim or sexual assault made against Trump, and it's not been from lack of attempts; it just shows that they're complete hypocrites who just want to win, and that whatever rules or code or ethical philosophy they claim to have is just a mask to trick the rubes.
This is also a large part of why they constantly demonize the other side, because in their mind so long as they can accuse a Rep or a conservative of being one rung more evil than them, then their own moral failings vanish in the milieu.
[–]Hibikitheweirdo15 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Oh really? So, Trump groping the reporter a few years ago wasn't credible enough?
[–]LabTech41 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
Given that nobody's talking about it, even Trump's worst enemies who'd love to throw that kind of slime on him, I'm going to go ahead and say 'no'. It's not about what you can allege, it's what you can prove.
[–]Hibikitheweirdo15 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
Well, just something to think about: Trump's had 25 sexual assault claims while Biden has had one. Neither of them has had their assault claims been proven except for Trump.
[–]aussietoads 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Considering feminists claim that any unwanted touching of a woman by a man is sexual assault then Biden has numerous sexual assault allegations made against him.
https://news.yahoo.com/seven-women-have-now-accused-joe-biden-of-inappropriate-touching-131204785.html
[–]mgtowolf 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also caught on video numerous times doing it, like this one here for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXweiRjckI&feature=youtu.be
[–]LabTech41 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'll take one substantiated claim over 25 unsubstantiated ones. Of course, people that have it out for anyone right of Mao can make up whatever arbitrary standards for what constitutes 'proof', but given that Trump's neither in jail or is it being discussed on any level by a media and an entire party out to get him, I'm inclined to think it's bunk.
Listen, let's have a moment of real talk, you're not really a member of this community, and you're just looking to state a pre-determined position with no open minded reasonability. You use Trump because the obvious example to use is Kavanaugh, a man who's example can be used as a polar opposite example of how the same quarters acted in regards to sexual allegation than what Biden's going through now. You'll defend the alleged rapist because he's YOUR alleged rapist; let's have no illusions about altruism or moral consistency. At least admit your partisan preference.
Me personally, I didn't believe Kavanaugh's accusers because none of their stories stood up to scrutiny; NOBODY was able to corroborate Ford's testimony, and in fact some of her so-called friends even refuted it. Reade, on the other hand is credible in all the ways Ford wasn't, and the fact that Biden INSISTS that the records which you'd think would exonerate him if he were innocent are being sealed until years after his death is basically proof that while the current claims aren't yet proven, there's SOMETHING big he doesn't want shown.
Also, and this isn't a small point either, my guess is you got triggered when I started off my thread with something disparaging to feminists, which I'm presuming you are based on your byline and your responses... and also the fact that most of your profile is talking about your bras and boobs.
On that note, I'm going to end this comment with an olive branch and state that I hope you find one that fits, and that you no longer have boob related issues. God bless.
[–]Hibikitheweirdo15 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
To cut it short, it's pretty damn obvious both are creeps, but It's also damn obvious Trump is the creepier of the two considering the things he's said about his daughter, other women, and joking about sexually assaulting women (which most people just laugh at despite it not even being funny). I never said Biden's claims weren't credible.
And nah, I wasn't triggered. This whole subreddit is pretty damn pathetic though. I think it's funny that men think they're the oppressed ones while making fun of feminists because clearly there aren't any other issues for y'all to tackle other than women trying to gain a little more respect.
Oof, bringing up my bra posts as a way to excuse the original argument. Nice try, bud. That ain't working for ya. I hate to break it to you but my tits don't have anything to do with this conversation.
[–]LabTech41 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
So, you've not seen the MANY videos of Biden touching people inappropriately, especially children? Like I said, what constitutes 'proof' is going to be largely subjective with those who have a desired outcome in mind, but at least you realize the guy you'll likely vote for is a degenerate; well done subverting your principles for political gain, you're everything 3rd wave feminism represents.
You really have no concept of how modern gender relations go these days, do you? Of course not; in a world where everything bends over backwards to kiss your ass, everything seems like oppression. If the barista takes 30 seconds too long to hand you your coffee, that's oppression. Your movement's run so many words into the ground, they've lost all meaning. Maybe if you took this sub with a grain of credibility, you'd see all the ways that women in the West are not only equal to men, but SUPERIOR to men in how they live and how they're treated. If it was simply a matter of women trying to be the true equals of men in society, I'd laud that; but it very rarely is exactly that.
Sorry ma'am, but if you're trying to argue ad hominem, perhaps you should check out the rest of the commentary where I point out my positions without having to mention fluff; the fluff just adds spice to an argument that's already been won without you knowing it. While it's true your tits have nothing to do with this argument, the sheer volume of your profile suggests that they're pretty much all that's on your mind, which given they're apparently 32H's, they're probably an order of magnitude bigger than your mind. No wonder you feel so entitled to speak this way as if you're an authority: those honkers have been opening doors for you before you were even in the same time zone as them.
Not that that's something to disdain; to be able to sleepwalk through life with a good appearance would be such a joy for most people. If you've got a decent face, so long as you land a decent guy you're made for life on Easy st., and that's an box most people would tick, given the option. Now, I'm sure you think you've worked hard in life, and maybe you have... but you've never had to go through life as a man, where most people don't acknowledge or care about you other than kin and friends; you don't really know what hardship is, and I'm not sure you'd be able to make it a week in a man's life, but you'll continue to keep thinking it's you who's got it rough because your feminist friends keep telling you, so it must be true, right?
Anyway, I'm sure I've given you enough fodder for now; take care and don't let it sink in that nobody cares what you have to think, you'll get used to it.
[+]ParumpAPump1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link
Woooow this is some fragile white guy shit right here
[+]LabTech411 points 6 years ago [recovered] (17 children) | Copy Link
It SURE is.
[–]ParumpAPump 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Lmao you think keeping a cue card of mean things people say to you makes you seem less fragile?
Have some self respect bro
[–]Hibikitheweirdo15 0 points1 point2 points 6 years agolocked comment (7 children) | Copy Link
Wow, a list of arguments literally no woman makes. You're the one tossing my tit size into the argument to try to set me off. Reminds me of this dipshit I once had an argument with who went on videos of women just to insult their appearances.
[–]Hibikitheweirdo15 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't support Trump or Biden, and yes I have done more research over the cases. I can say I'd much rather write in Bernie's name if I were to vote.
Boy oh boy, you are the exact definition of an incel. Very whiny too.
[–]ParumpAPump 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'll take one substantiated claim over 25 unsubstantiated ones.
this is the opinion of an idiot
[–]alclarkey 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
With the blind, insane, and absurd hatred of the man it's a wonder it isn't 2,500.
[–]alclarkey 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We weren't supposed to vote for Trump because he was a supposed sexual harasser, that no other consideration mattered but that. Not gun rights, taxes, abortion, immigration reform, criminal justice, none of that was supposed to matter. Now when it's their asshole, oh well that's horrible, but the issues matter more. I can't fucking stand democrats.
[–]majormajorsnowden[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
without double standards they’d have no standards
[–]McFeely_Smackup 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting, I read the piece, you'll need an incognito window to bypass the paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/opinion/tara-reade-joe-biden-vote.html
there's no congitive dissonance here, she flat out says she believes Biden is guilty, and she just doesn't care.
So to be clear, we should have not voted for Trump because women accused him without evidence, we should not have confirmed Kavanaugh even though there was direct evidence of his innocence, but Biden...she fully believes he forcefully sexually violated a woman, but we should still vote for him because of politics.
I'd like to see her challenged on this, someone tell her that "yes, I believe Donald Trump raped multiple women, but I'm still going to vote for him, is that ok by you?"
They're going to hand another election to Trump by simply proving they're every bit as bad as they say he is.
[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you understand how they think it's easy to understand why they're doing this. We all knew MeToo was a charade, now feminists are voting for Biden because they think they have to deal with Trump.
They consider Trump to be the ultimate evil, in their own words literally hitler. So when you consider that they have that sort of mentality towards him in their own world they're going to quite happily overlook an alleged sexual assault in order to defeat their ultimate evil. Not any of my opinion, this just how I think feminists view this whole thing. It's going to be very interesting seeing what they do if Trump wins in November, I think it's going to be a massive shitshow.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Every woman posting this stupidity is probably abusing her kids or encouraging someone else to abuse them..
The problem is that if Biden gets elected, then those same people who gave him a pass are going to go right back to the same behavior they were doing before. If they said right now that yea, they're still going with Biden, then they ought to remain consistent in allowing other men to go forward with their careers from here on out as well. But they won't do that.
[–]destarolat 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She looks exactly how you would imagine.
[–]ParumpAPump -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
DAE disagree with an opinion piece?!?! Like come on guys, this is trumper shit, not Mens rights
[–]majormajorsnowden[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
DAE?
[–]ParumpAPump 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"does anyone else"
I don't see why the premise of this opinion piece is so offensive to you. IF Reade is telling the truth, that makes Biden an abuser. BUT we already know Trump is a serial abuser and apart from that totally unfit for office. There's a legitimate conversation to be had with people like this lady who find themselves in this position. You don't have to agree with her, which is the whole point of an opinion piece.
[–]majormajorsnowden[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How do we know Trump is a serial abuser? How do we know Biden isn’t unfit?
[–]ParumpAPump 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you are willing to excuse every trump allegation why would you take Reade seriously? As much as you want to complain about the inverse, there is just a lot more evidence that trump has sexually assaulted women than biden
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12
[–]majormajorsnowden[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t have proof that either has assaulted anyone. What I dislike is the hypocrisy. It was never about assaulting women or not. It was always about politics. A Kavanaugh supporter could have made this same argument. Although there’s less evidence Kavanaugh ever did anything untoward. “I think he did it but I prefer his politics to the other guy’s”
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Woooow this is some fragile white guy shit right here
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It SURE is.
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