When a woman has been proven as a victim of gendered violence —though nowadays we are getting closer towards not needing for it to be proven— she has access to:
Job provided by the state. Housing provided by the state. Discounts on academia and most services provided by the state. Directly money from the state.
That's why police reports are so high there.
Notice the pattern, rate of police reports are high in those 1st world countries where accusation is believed without evidence and compensation is offered.
In UK, accusers get £11,000 for filing rape police report. Annual rape report in UK 2018 was 59,000 in which only 3,000 were convicted.
Media wonders why police reports are going up but conviction is going down. They fail to see where the motivation is coming from.
A movement of mothers that systematically reported on false their husbands to take custody of the children and when things went wrong they kidnapped them.
There is, but is only coming from a far right party called Vox. It is formed by ex-members of PP, a party formed by politicians of the dictator, so... Well, that is a box we do not want to open.
You see Vox as worse than a totally broken legal system and the destruction of the fabric of society?
I know little about Vox apart from what the likes of BBC says, but BBC is as trustworthy as any other feminist organisation. BBC thinks anything right of the left is alt-right.
We are a country that recently left a fascist dictatorship, these are defenders of that dictatorship. Not alt-right but the spanish equivalent of pro-Hitler politicians in Germany. This was like the URSS but from a right fascist dictatorship for 40 years, everyone who was suspicious to be left-wing was shot, we have family members still buried within the roadsides, we were enforced a flag and a king even after our transition to democracy. No trials were made, those who were torturers or killed for the dictator are free, judges kept their job and so on. In Spain the situation with the right wing is very different than in USA.
"Again, the evil practices of the last and worst form of democracy are all found in tyrannies. Such are the power given to women in their families in the hope that they will inform against their husbands, and the license which is allowed to slaves in order that they may betray their masters; for slaves and women do not conspire against tyrants; and they are of course friendly to tyrannies and also to democracies, since under them they have a good time. For the people too would fain be a monarch, and therefore by them, as well as by the tyrant, the flatterer is held in honor; in democracies he is the demagogue; and the tyrant also has those who associate with him in a humble spirit, which is a work of flattery. "
- Aristotle
They will destroy the nation. Men are the engine of society.
People from historical times knew this and here we are pandering to same bullshit. However advanced, history will repeat it's follies with human mind it seems.
These were hanged dolls of five people accused of rape before the trial. A manifestation was made weekly where their death was asked for, or to be punished with no need of trials. And it is just a slight example.
[–]Ody_ssey 15 points16 points17 points (9 children) | Copy Link
That's why police reports are so high there.
Notice the pattern, rate of police reports are high in those 1st world countries where accusation is believed without evidence and compensation is offered.
In UK, accusers get £11,000 for filing rape police report. Annual rape report in UK 2018 was 59,000 in which only 3,000 were convicted.
Media wonders why police reports are going up but conviction is going down. They fail to see where the motivation is coming from.
[–]Egalitarianwhistle 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Slight correction:
I believe it's about 1,000 pounds in the UK. 11,000 is what Jemma Beale raked in after accusing about ten men.
[–]N19864 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Just for filing a rape report? I thought it has to be proven a rape had occurred. That seems so bloody wrong and evil.
[–]Ody_ssey 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It is for filing police report only.
[–]NesVier[S] 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I will say the same that in the original post so people can see it:
"We've had organized crime taking advantage of this:
https://www.lavanguardia.com/sucesos/20190916/47394652772/denuncias-falsas-violencia-machista-lleida.html
A criminal group that made false reports to receive compensation.
https://www.lavozdealmeria.com/noticia/12/almeria/187511/cae-una-red-por-denuncias-falsas-de-violencia-de-genero-para-lograr-papeles
Another criminal band with false reports of gender violence to be able to get citizenship.
https://cadenaser.com/ser/2019/07/24/tribunales/1563979451_221674.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
A movement of mothers that systematically reported on false their husbands to take custody of the children and when things went wrong they kidnapped them.
And so on".
[–]N19864 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
You see Vox as worse than a totally broken legal system and the destruction of the fabric of society?
I know little about Vox apart from what the likes of BBC says, but BBC is as trustworthy as any other feminist organisation. BBC thinks anything right of the left is alt-right.
[–]NesVier[S] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
We are a country that recently left a fascist dictatorship, these are defenders of that dictatorship. Not alt-right but the spanish equivalent of pro-Hitler politicians in Germany. This was like the URSS but from a right fascist dictatorship for 40 years, everyone who was suspicious to be left-wing was shot, we have family members still buried within the roadsides, we were enforced a flag and a king even after our transition to democracy. No trials were made, those who were torturers or killed for the dictator are free, judges kept their job and so on. In Spain the situation with the right wing is very different than in USA.
[–]N19864 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That makes perfect sense why you guys don't vote for them. Damn, you guys have it bad.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
That's explains it. A cash payment. Can you send a link?
[–]Ody_ssey 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.legalexpert.co.uk/how-to-claim/how-much-compensation-for-rape-victim/
Go to the table below. The price is huge. Their definition of rape is also anti-male so men cannot be compensated.
[–]N19864 4 points5 points6 points (3 children) | Copy Link
They will destroy the nation. Men are the engine of society.
[–]perplexedm 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
People from historical times knew this and here we are pandering to same bullshit. However advanced, history will repeat it's follies with human mind it seems.
Feminism is always a symptom of affluence.
[–]NesVier[S] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
A curious case. When in Spain the decision was made to let women vote it was the left-wing party the one who argued against it.
[–]N19864 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess it's a case of broken clock being right twice a day.
[–]Saywhatyouwill78 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This is genuinely scary. Men can go to jail without proof.
[–]NesVier[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Even scarier:
https://www.elplural.com/sociedad/de-nuevo-munecos-de-la-manada-ahorcados_127572102
These were hanged dolls of five people accused of rape before the trial. A manifestation was made weekly where their death was asked for, or to be punished with no need of trials. And it is just a slight example.
[–]Egalitarianwhistle 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Spain has always been the canary in the coal mine of the West. Remember- they fought their Civil War as a foreshadowing to WW2
[–]anticathexis 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The mods deleted the original post. Can anyone re-link the article?
[–]NesVier[S] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Here you have it https://archive.md/0B9G2
[–]anticathexis 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks!
[–]Graham765 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Repost, because the original was removed.