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KFC apologises for 'sexist' ad that makes a joke about women (accidentally) sexually harassing young boys. Because it's sexist against women.

thowaway_throwaway

January 21, 2020
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/21/kfc-apologises-for-sexist-ad-that-shows-young-boys-staring-at-womans-breasts
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Title KFC apologises for 'sexist' ad that makes a joke about women (accidentally) sexually harassing young boys. Because it's sexist against women.
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thowaway_throwaway

Upvotes 90
Comments 37
Date January 21, 2020 9:59 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/es1up5/kfc_apologises_for_sexist_ad_that_makes_a_joke/
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Comments

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

its not sexual harassment if it is an accident. That is not how harassment works. The reason they 'apologized' is because of the 'sexist stereotype' of men objectifying women. It's stupid because it's not a stereotype, when a girl adjust her boobs right in a boys face he is going to like it 90% of the time.

[–]thowaway_throwaway[S] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

when a girl adjust her boobs right in a boys face he is going to like it 90% of the time

Only if the woman is attractive. It's like rules 1 and 2.

Do an unsafe image search for 'ugly topless woman' if you want to prove me wrong.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do an unsafe image search for 'ugly topless woman' if you want to prove me wrong.

I knew I shouldn't do it. I mean, what was the best possible outcome?

I did it. I regret it.

[–]-Cyber_Wraith 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasn't that bad?

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was pretty bad

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but this scenario is legitimately an attractive woman. You can also say 'well what if the guys gay?' but its beside the point, you're just kind of looking for other avenues of thought that don't actually defeat the initial point, they just distract from it.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a rule that pretty women get short or no sentences, but the evidence I've seen is pretty much that this applies to pretty much any woman. At least for the only case where women sometimes receive any sentence at all, statutory rape. The UK has decided that it does not want to put any woman in jail and it's written policy. It's unwritten policy in the US and most of the rest of the world, except India where it is written policy.

[–]ApprehensiveMail8 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say he is going to "like" it. He didn't consent to it.

Look, let's say a guy is very handsome, has an amazing body and a porn-quality member. Most women enjoy looking at him.

But now, let's say this guy puts on a trenchcoat and a thong and starts flashing random women, including underage girls. Nobody would say they "like" it. It's not that girl's don't appreciate good-looking men the same way men do, it's not that women don't get turned on visually the way men do, it's not that women, on average, do a better job of looking away than men, on average. It's that society-at-large accurately places the blame for this scenario on the adult choosing to dress inappropriately rather than the victims for "ogling". "Ogling" isn't harmful, flashing is.

Random men and, in particular, boys simply need to be protected from blame for unwanted visual arousal in the same way. It's not our fault what women choose to wear.

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

let's say this guy puts on a trenchcoat and a thong and starts flashing random women, including underage girls. Nobody would say they "like" it

Part of this problem is that it assumes men and women have the same approaches to sexuality. They don't. There would be no logical reason for them to have the same approaches to sexuality. Trying to compare this to a situation with a gender reversal doesn't prove anything other than that they don't have the same sexuality.

You're also exaggerating what happened here. The girl didn't flash anyone. She isn't dressed inappropriately. She just adjusted her breasts in a mirror.

[–]ApprehensiveMail8 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

That's kinda circular, don't ya think? Men and women logically don't have the same approaches to sexuality because they don't have the same approach to sexuality?

Let's try to bring this back to reality and the point. If a gender swap analogy doesn't help you to understand we shall try a different approach, perhaps a more direct explanation:

I don't "like it" when a woman's boobs in my face. Don't get me wrong- I am (mostly) straight. You could say I find boobs sexually attractive, arousing, alluring, addictive, distracting. But here's the thing; I do not generally wish to be aroused, allured, addicted, distracted. I do not think most men or boys do. When it comes to fully intentional partner selection we are highly selective and monogamous. But pretty much the entire human sexual arousal response cycle is involuntary.

**Now let's stop here and clarify something, because unfortunately, some people need this clarified; by the human sexual response cycle I mean a quickening heart rate, the start of an erection, skin getting flush, perhaps an instinctual head turning. That sort of thing. The actual involuntary responses triggered. I do not mean a man's tongue dropping out of his mouth like a cartoon wolf. I do not mean losing control of oneself to the point that you commit sex crimes or engage in objectively risky sexual behaviors. I do not mean cheating. Most actual men, most of the time, do not respond to arousal in these ways, those who do are making a choice. If you conflate poor choices with involuntary arousal that's on you, not me.***

Seeing boobs is not the worst thing in the world. That would be an exaggeration and I do not mean to give that impression. But the way men actually feel about being aroused runs the gamut from irritated to embarassed to worried to pleased.

"Like it" is sometime applicable when men see boobs. But I would say it is rare.

TLDR: Do not conflate sexual arousal with emotional response to sexual arousal or choices made thereafter. They are three different things.

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's kinda circular, don't ya think?

no.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe adults can exercise a bit more control of their behaviour when around kids.

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First, she didn't know she was in front of kids. Second, why? They're boobs, and they aren't even now. If a guy was walking down the street shirtless it wouldn't even be an issue. Lets not act like its some negative stereotype that a woman checked herself out, or that boys checked her out.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Stop sexualizing children. These boys don't look old enough to give a fuck about this shit.

[–]liztu_june 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was watching porn at age 10 so I have no idea what your talking about.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are abnormal.

[–]liztu_june 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The whole concept of sexual objectifcaiton is just a excuse to be sexist ageist male sexuality. Back when I was a homophobe I use similar arguments feminist used ageist gay men not realizing the reason those where the same arguments used ageist me.

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

what kind of arguments would you use?

[–]liztu_june 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That gay men lust over other men and lust is form of sexual objectification.

It a shit argument and there a good reason why I no longer support the view though at the time people having sex outside marriage made me angry show did people watching porn so I guess people having sex at the time just made me mad.

Wow I realize I was a generic sex hating evangelical christian.

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We all start somewhere. I don't think its necessarily wrong to have views like those. They're radically different from my own, but I don't think everyone should have to conform to the same group think, its how cultures are erased. I think what is important is that we don't advocate for laws that insist upon one particular type of group think.

[–]Dunkolunko 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh how harmful and toxic, 2 boys at the beginnings of puberty looking at the secondary sexual characteristics of a women who is bringing an unusual amount of attention to those characteristics in public.

[–]mgtowolf 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Womens should be able to walk around naked/dressed like a 50cent hooker without creepy shitlords gawking at them! That's lookyloo rape!"

[–]ThomasPollock 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So we have three categories of women with different viewpoints coming into play here; one category sees the use of sex as a means of power over males, another sees the use of sex as degrading and of course mothers who do not want their young sons exposed to sex. Rather than acknowledge that their opposition is other women the two young sons are used appropriately as "whipping boys". If the two boys are given a pass because of their age then the blame will fall on grown men who "taught" them these ways.

[–]liztu_june 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Precisely the fact that feminist cant decide if it sex positive or sex negative is a example of this. The only this they agree on is men can only be sexual if it convenient for them.

[–]tenchineuro 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

  • In a short statement issued on Tuesday, KFC said: “We apologise if anyone was offended by our latest commercial. Our intention was not to stereotype women and young boys in a negative light.”
  • The Collective Shout spokeswoman Melinda Liszewski said the ad was a regression to tired and archaic stereotypes where young women were sexually objectified for male pleasure; and males were helplessly transfixed when confronted with the opportunity to ogle a woman’s body.
  • “Ads like this reinforce the false idea that we can’t expect better from boys. It is another manifestation of the ‘boys will be boys’ trope, hampering our ability to challenge sexist ideas which contribute to harmful behaviour towards women and girls,” Liszewski said.
  • “The research is solid: attitudes shape behaviour. A growing number of reports show how reinforcing of gender stereotypes – including in advertising – contributes to a lesser view of women, resulting in their mistreatment.”
  • KFC has not confirmed if it will stop using the ad.

So at the root of it all, young women are the innocent victims of men and in this case, boys.

[–]NakedValhallaBoy 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“We apologise if anyone was offended by our latest commercial. Our intention was not to stereotype women and young boys in a negative light.”

I just love that were at a point where showing things that actually happen is considered offensive and stereotyping. We have reached this critical point in society where in order to be PC everyone has to be ashamed of any broad-stroke portrayal that they may relate to.

[–]qemist 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So at the root of it all, young women are the innocent victims of men and in this case, boys.

The case of the missing female sexual agency deepens.

[–]Maleficent-Curve 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so I can walk around in ass-less chaps all day AND be indignant when people stare at my meaty rump? I love it

[–]liztu_june 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is male sexuality bad? If any of you anti sex conservative/feminist types want to explain it to me not using mysticism such as SIN and SEXAUL OBJECTIFCATION go on ahead.

[–]xNOM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The research is solid: attitudes shape behaviour. A growing number of reports show how reinforcing of gender stereotypes – including in advertising – contributes to a lesser view of women, resulting in their mistreatment.”

A growing number of clueless idiots don't understand that stereotypes are mostly true. They're outraged when women dress like sluts, and awkward situations result.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh please. It wasn't even that bad.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck them. The problem here is the sexualization of boys too young to give a shit about some ho's tits. Portray them as sexually interested, and you make it easier for women who prey on them to claim they "wanted it."

[–]TigerOnLSD 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what's the girls name yo?

[–]Successful_Loan_7217 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Found it bro?

[–]SMTTT84 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The ad didn't seem like sexual harassment at all, she obviously didn't know the children were in the car.

[–]liztu_june 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And even if they did so fucking what if you don't have a sex drive they won't care what she wearing and if they did they just going to become adults that have sex anyway.

[–]MarsNirgal -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, OP, but I think you're misrepresenting the ad.

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