As Bill Burr once said 'ladies your issues may not get resolved but at least people give a fuck'.
And its true. Women have support systems for their depression, they have systems in place and people are much more prone to be sympathetic to women and don't want to see a woman suffering, people want to help and show they are not alone.
But for men we are alone, partially because of the traditional view that men cannot show weakness, but the biggest reason is no one cares. People don't just not care they distance themselves from you. Men and women will just walk away or show a miniscule amount of compassion. Men know that expressing our depression or darker thoughts is a terrible idea because it will make matters worse, not better.
There is this modern trend that traditional gender roles cause men not to talk about this, I think that's a small component of the reason, but its because most of us know if we come forward with our issues, the people around us and society at large will largely shun us. Therefore we bottle it in and deal with it by ourselves, not because we are afraid of not looking like "real men" but because we know we are alone in this struggle and if we open up we will lose so, so much.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points (1 child) | Copy Link
2016?
[–]grimview[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It should be 2019. I can't figure out how to edit.
[–]Equality4all123 7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
2016?. This was posted one month ago
[–]grimview[S] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It should be 2019. I can't figure out how to edit.
[–]Equality4all123 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think there is a way to edit title, but it's understandable
[–]specter_litt 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I wholly support this. This culture does not care about male suffering.
[–]Greg_W_Allan 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Male only environments are now largely forbidden. This has robbed boys and men of the spaces where they are best able to deal with stress and trauma. It's being reflected, in part, in changing suicide rates over the past half century.
[–]bopbeepboopbeepbop 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd say that both are probably big factors depending on the person. For OP, that may be his reason, but for others, it might be the stigma of "manlihood."
[–]EddyConejo 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not the point of the post, but if it was 2016 again I'd do so much stuff better than I did back then. I hate you, 2016 myself.
[–]mycroftxxx42 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
One thing I really like about this post was that a woman tried to make it about her.
Ok, that's kinda harsh, but it is what she did. She talked about how things were different regarding her mental health verses that of her more-attractive sister. Shock of shocks, the OP read this, thought about it, and changed his view to include unattractive women in the disposable class.
Society doesn't really value women any more than men unless the woman can be feminine in an attractive manner. Seeing someone else pick up on that from a single example and some self-examination gave me life.
[–]Svenskbtch 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course, both mens fear of perception and societys insouciance are important and highly interrelated factors. We care perhaps about individual men that we are close to, but not about men as a group. The biggest misconception of feminism, and society is at large, has been the assumption that the privileges, regardless of how you define that term, than men have had and sometimes still have in the public sphere go hand in hand with some kind of overall preference for men as a gender. Deconstruct that, and you can explain pretty much every case where feminism appears to act in a way that is in opposition to a commitment to gender equality.
[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I've been saying this for years. But no one gave a fuck... Surprised they do there.
[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my God this post says it all. 'Because nobody gives a fuck'.
Society tells men they are WORTHLESS. 'TOXIC', just for BEING male.
Theres fuck all money or time or attention on the biggest sufferers of all (men), then douche bags turn round, scratch their heads and say 'why are so many men struggling....?'
Because its a feminized, man hating society we now live in, where men STILL do the shit work-the only thing thats changed is men are now also demonized by women for simply existing, in a world where they get privileged for being female.