The importance of looks.

_whistler · 2013-12-08T16:48:32+00:00

If you want to workout, do it for health.

This is 100% right, but you're oversimplifying. Don't work out to look good for women, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to look good for yourself. I feel better about myself when I look good, which strengthens my frame.

Glorious_Master · 2013-12-08T16:37:38+00:00

you miss the point of looks entirely.

Costafarian · 2013-12-09T06:03:44+00:00

I can get behind that. It explains how men like David X have been able to land women at his age and size.

What bugs me the most about this sub, is that it claims to be all about self-improvement. But the best "self-help" advice I can find is just 'lift more, go out, dress better, man the fuck up.'

And if you question that, you get downvoted and told that you're not going to get anywhere. But I thought the whole concept of manning up was supposed to be about thinking for yourself?

Anyway, most newbs will look at the advice and take it at face value. So they will lift, dress better, go out, and man up but for the reason to earn a woman's attention. And isn't that what we're trying to prevent?

I like examples like yours because it can show newbies that the mindset is what's important. The idea that you're the prize to be won, you're the most important person in a relationship, and you shouldn't give a fuck about what she thinks.

I don't think this is stressed enough at this sub, the mindset alone can do wonders. I'm not by any means ugly or obese, but learning not to worry about my looks will help build inner game better than lifting to look better for a girl.

And inner game is basically what we try to teach here at TRP. You need to be mentally prepared for rejection, shit-tests, flaking, and emotional breakdowns. You need to be a rock within.

Lift because you want to lift, not because you wan't to attract girls or because the members of TRP say you have to in order to be a better man.

AWiseBro · 2013-12-08T18:44:01+00:00

Just because women can be attracted to money, power and status doesn't mean looks become completely irrelevant. As someone who used to have bitch tits and now has the body of Thor I can confirm that looks make a huge difference. It's not even just with women, life becomes much easier in general when you're good looking.

Whyver · 2013-12-09T00:10:44+00:00

You don't need to be jacked, but having a fit body can only help, never hurt. You don't need to be a tryhard. With a healthy diet and a few hours of exercise per week, you can look better than most guys.

7Vega · 2013-12-09T01:37:55+00:00

I work out just in case I ever get sent to prison.

If I look good, then so be it.

permabulkjelly · 2013-12-08T16:38:00+00:00

Definitely not. Appearance is everything. No matter how confident and redpill you are, if you look unattractive you will definitely do nowhere near as well as the same person who takes care of themselves.

nSaneMadness · 2013-12-08T20:59:49+00:00

Having gone through all the comments...

Really? Get a clue.

Women eye fuck the hell out of Orlando Bloom, Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum, Luke Bryant, the late Paul Walker, and any other guy they find attractive.

Social Status and Provider Status aren't the only pieces of the puzzle.

Edit: A word

trplurker · 2013-12-09T03:09:19+00:00

Ok "looks" is too generic a description as there are tons of things that can fall into it.

Firstly realize that we, as men, tend to judge things rationally. We grade things objectively & numerically and the higher the better. An 8 to us now is probably going to be an 8 to us tomorrow. Women don't do this, they grade things subjectively based on how they feel at that moment in time. An 8 to them now could very well be a 6 tomorrow and a 9 the day after. This difference is what took me the better part of a decade to figure out.

So by "looks" we mean her attraction to you, not just physical but her emotional attraction. You can be ugly as fuck yet if you project enough confidence in your appearance / status then you'll essentially gas light her into feeling your attractive. In the reverse if your shredded yet project negative confidence you'll again gas light her into feeling your unattractive. What we call "game" is just communicating to and altering her emotional state.

So looks are important until you open your mouth, they were very important to our primal pre-language evolution. Now that we have language, we use it after the looks phase as further proof of our status. And women are 100% about status, it's ALL status.

ES: Fat ugly guy meets a women, she initially values him at 4 yet craves emotional validation so listens. Guy pulls game and gas lights her emotions into feeling he's an 8. Cough "I just don't know but there's something about him that' blah blah blah".

Same situation Shredded gym rat meets a women, she initially values him at 8 and craves emotional validation. Guy is awkward, nervous and send off the creepy vibe which gas lights her emotions into feeling he's a 4. "He looks good but IDK, I'm just not attracted to him, he should meet my BFF Cindy".

The only real difference is initial assessment which determines how much game / work you gotta spin to convince her emotional hamster she's not a slut for sleeping with you. Physically attractive guys have it easier. There is one situation I've seen that being objectively unattractive really hurts and that's with super hot women who already have tons of male validation / attention from physically attractive guys. The 9.5 crowd, they won't even listen to the fat ugly guy and so he's got no chance to raise he's value. Now if he showed up with a hot girl already on his arm then the 9.5 would listen to him because the presence of an attractive girl immediately raise's his subjective value.

StinkinBadges · 2013-12-09T14:22:50+00:00

"If the women don't find you handsome, they better find you handy." ~ Red Green

Sub8male · 2013-12-08T16:41:13+00:00

Nothing rustles my jimmies more than hearing some self professed PUA talk about his exploits then find out that he's very good looking. If you fit the pretty boy role you can literally act like a retard and the only thing that will matter is how good looking you are.

Looks > Everything

LMS_THEORY_ · 2013-12-08T21:11:18+00:00

It's not just about looks

It's about Looks, Money, and Status

LMS THEORY > GAME

Whyver · 2013-12-08T23:54:16+00:00

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Whyver · 2013-12-08T23:50:12+00:00

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Title	The importance of looks.
Author	Whyver
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Comments	65
Date	December 8, 2013 4:28 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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