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84% of Female Soldiers Fail Military Fitness Test

JohnKimble111

October 11, 2019
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https://nationalfile.com/leak-84-of-female-soldiers-fail-military-fitness-test/
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Title 84% of Female Soldiers Fail Military Fitness Test
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 241
Comments 25
Date October 11, 2019 5:51 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dgipb6/84_of_female_soldiers_fail_military_fitness_test/
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[–]Vance87 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I was in the military and in my experience, far more women have PT waivers exempting them from most or all of the different portions of the PT test in relation to men. Not like there aren't lazy fat male military members (plenty), and I'm not saying the females were lazy, but I think it speaks to the physiological differences between men and women more than anything. Just my take.

[–]Lethn 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Well from an outsiders perspective, I don't think it's anything to do with 'female' physiology necessarily but how the military especially the upper brass are absolutely desperate to get women in to the point they're willing to give them special treatment where they don't deserve it.

Had they been given the same treatment as everybody else and held to the same standards I'd doubt there would be anywhere near as many complaints about women in the military because the women that would be in there would have earned it like everybody else.

The amazing thing is even when feminists implement stuff that they want, they still fuck it up completely, because all these quotas and shit are going to do is fuel resentment towards women serving in the military and give ammunition to people who don't want them in at all.

[–]White_Ranger33 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Physiological differences =/= Psychological differences.

[–]SharedRegime 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you misread PHYSiological for PSYchological.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh shit I did, sorry about that, fixing my post, still the same point though.

[–]BaconMan957 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes because they can’t lower the standards for women because then it could be dangerous if they can’t help someone because they are too weak for the job

[–]Ody_ssey 31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is exactly they are going to do no matter the consequences.

[–]Delta_DeConstruct 21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Want to know the funny thing? Men and women have different standards for physical fitness standards and the USAF just made passing these standards easier for everyone. I'm not at all against women in the military but shit, at least force them to meet their already EASY PT requirements.

[–]Smashed_Pasty 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When did the USAF change the PT standards?

[–]Delta_DeConstruct 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was attempting to enlist last winter and they told me the change was to come about in the spring. The entire pt system changed, at least from when I was looking at joining in 08 and 2013

[–]storeguard130 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Weird, I haven't heard about it changing since 2009-2010 timeframe.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was a Medic in the Army and had to do physicals and other tests on people who were on profile for long periods. The ratio of men vs women(women being much larger) was disappointing.
There's no way a 120 lb woman is going to be able to drag a 200-230lb male soldier anywhere.

[–]apeironman 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that a majority of male soldiers fail the military fitness test, as well.

Edit: never mind. After reading this article, it claims only 30% of men fail the test. I might have been reading something about how the typical guy on the street couldn't pass a military fitness test.

[–]mma-mods-suck 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve heard the same about police officers, could be from that. There’s not a lot of obese military guys but there are quite a few obese cops haha

[–]RaptorsCdwoods 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Male PT test are also more difficult. For example, I have to run a 13:36 mile and a half to pass as a male under 30 in the Air Force. A female under 30 has to run somewhere around a 16:22 mile and a half.

Unless I’m mistaken, a 49 year old male in the Air Force has the exact same PT standards as a 19 year old women.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A female under 30 has to run somewhere around a 16:22 mile and a half.

Good grief. There are plenty of folk who could walk it in that time if they stretch out a bit.

[–]kanyeawilo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Marines is 18 mins for 3 miles for both men AND women. But things get different after that. They even have their own obstacle and endurance courses

[–]thatusenameistaken 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude, you are just all different kinds of wrong.

Marines is 18 mins for 3 miles for both men AND women.

That's not to pass, that's to max out the score @ 100 pts. And that's for men only, it's 21 mins for women. For a 51 year old man to max, he needs a 19:30, or 1:30 faster than an 18 year old woman needs to max her score.

Passing is 27:40 for men and 30:50 for women @ 18.

[–]kanyeawilo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh. My bad. I assumed you meant to max @100.

And yes. I was wrong about times for females.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is interesting, this new combat fitness test is a radical departure from previous DOD fitness standards. This makes no allowances for age or gender, and sets different standards based on the physical requirements for individual MOS jobs.

it never made sense before under the old standard that would rate a middle aged woman higher than a peak fit teenage male because her standards were significantly lower. The latter could carry a wounded comrade for miles, the former would get out of breath walking to get help.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The current (and outgoing) APFT test is specifically biased in gender and age for scoring purposes.

This incoming one, the one referenced in the article, the ACFT, is entirely gender neutral and a much better performance test in general. Dynamic movements are a better indicator than the old standards, for either gender. Hope they keep this new one the way it is.

https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/acft/acft_field_testing_manual_final.pdf

[+]Silverseren -14 points-13 points-12 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This was debunked by the military several weeks ago: https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/09/24/slides-showing-high-failure-rates-on-new-fitness-test-are-not-official-cimt-documents-officials-say/

[–]McFeely_Smackup 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't know what "debunked" means.

Your article says the Center for Initial Military Training issued a statement that the referenced data was not published by them, which it had not been claimed to be, nor they not refute the data.

[+]TheReal-Donald-Trump1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This is bullshit - you are a bunch of faggots that can't get pussy so you pose lame shit like this.

[+]noelogoutlaw1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

you are a bunch of faggots

Touche. The only pussy you get is from the bull-cut pinknblue-haired nose-ring dykes, and that's after they impregnate you in the ass with their big black dildo.

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