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Why the "Free the Nipple" win is court is a loss for women

BennieTheGreat00

April 20, 2019
7 upvotes
/r/MensRights

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/04/18/why-the-free-the-nipple-win-in-court-is-a-loss-for-women/amp/

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Title Why the "Free the Nipple" win is court is a loss for women
Author

BennieTheGreat00

Upvotes 7
Comments 14
Date April 20, 2019 7:44 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/bfg7yn/why_the_free_the_nipple_win_is_court_is_a_loss/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/why-the-free-the-nipple-win-is-court-is-a-loss-for.879258
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Comments

[+]AEHIILRS1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Any one want to put odds on the chances of the author having a moment of self awareness and pondering why equality feels like a loss?

[–]antifeminist3 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unlikely; even if she read this comment you just made, I still think that most women will not understand your point.

[–]mgtowolf 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I love it when women are running around topless and or naked. Saves me the brain cycles of imagining what it would look like. Just don't complain if people look, it's what eyes were made to do :P

[–]ExcellentSauce 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But they want to walk around topless than be able to arrest you for not looking at the ground while you walk.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you can look, sure, but don't stare, there's a difference. Same if you see a person with no arms, sure, you look for a second, but don't keep your gaze on them

[–]furchfur 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do not think there is a difference. I have lived in a culture where female breasts were treated the same as a males and it really did make more sense. In PNG they are treated very much the same.

As for breastfeeding many women choose not to or are unable to and at our local swimming pool many men have a lot bigger breasts than the women!

I do not think it is a big deal either way. It should be the choice of the woman though.

No woman should be prosecuted for going topless.

[–]XavierMalory 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Last I checked, this ruling did not say that women must bear their chest in public. For all the hemming and hawing this author is doing, maybe then if women feel like their breasts are an intimate part of their body and very important, then they can just go ahead and keep them covered up.

No one said you had to takeoff your shirt.

[–]14b755fe39 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bullshit, this pisspoor article is full of strawmen. There isn't a difference, women should be allowed to go bare chested. Breasts aren't sexual organs, they are sexualized mostly in English speaking countries. Forcing a woman to keep a bra on a hot day while allowing a man to go bare chested is a double standard. Any woman who doesn't want to go bare chest can keep her shirt on.

and I don't get its relevance to Men's rights.?.?

[–]BennieTheGreat00[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I felt like this needed to be here as a form of entertainment.

[–]alrun 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Puritanism vs. equality - Both have their points - it should be the choice of the women if she wants to cover up or go bare breasted.

Puritans focusing on modesty, believing that women need to cover up are of course up in arms about this. Just visit a park in Munich in Summer. So many poor bare breast women lying in the sun.

[–]MisterDamage 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so. Observe the number of times the article cites "unwelcome looks"; both are on the same side "I can bare my breasts and pick and choose who gets to look at them. You'll find out if you've been picked or chosen when the police show up.

[–]DignifiedAlpaca 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It ignores our powerful capacity to create and nurture life, and it forces us to define our bodies in relation to men’s, rather than celebrating the profound, beautiful uniqueness of our female form.

The author of the article is attaching so many things to this ruling that aren't there. The ruling does not compel women to celebrate their bodies differently, or compel them to define their bodies in terms of men, or compel them to not consider themselves to be unique.

In fact, the ruling doesn't actually compel anyone to do anything. It eliminates a rule that compelled women to do something.

She claims that allowing women to go topless could cause a young woman to do so without realizing that she could be sexualized by other people and possibly be put in danger, but wasn't it already legal for women to walk down dark alleyways late in the night wearing revealing clothing? The court's ruling hasn't fundamentally changed anything there.

I think it is very strange that the author is advocating laws for the purpose of protecting women from their own decisions, similar to mandating nightly curfews for women. This comes across to me as being similar to laws that require passengers in vehicles to wear a safety belt for their own protection. Such laws do in fact protect people, but they are ultimately protecting people from themselves, from their own decisions. I suppose it is a matter of how much confidence you have in your own capacity to make wise decisions, or whether you would prefer to have the government make the decisions for you based on the theory that the government knows better how to run your life than you do.

I am not saying that there cannot possibly be any successful arguments one could make against this ruling; I just don't feel like the particular things the author is attaching to the ruling are all that convincing to me.

Strange but oddly fascinating article.

[–]DignifiedAlpaca 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive: http://archive.is/u04IP

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"But on Feb. 15, the federal court upheld an injunction that prohibits the city of Fort Collins, Colorado, from enforcing a law that prohibits females 10 years old and older from going topless in public. "

The pedophiles will be ecstatic.

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