Women are encouraged to enter and become leaders in male dominated fields (math, engineering), but actively put down men in female dominated fields (education/nursing). It's been happening my whole career as a therapist and I'm sick of it

Jex117 · 2019-03-03T23:02:13+00:00

Would you be willing to write a detailed post regarding your experiences?

tortillastomper · 2019-03-03T23:04:04+00:00

Yeah. They're bullying you because they see you overtaking them easily. I think it was a Peanuts strip where Lucy hits Linus in the head so he won't get taller than her, sums it up well.

Lethn · 2019-03-03T23:23:25+00:00

You see feminists ranting about 'toxic masculinity' and describing it as being precisely this sort of situation yet the biggest abusers of 'toxic masculinity' I see on a regular basis are women, specifically it tends to be feminists but there are others too even on the more traditionalist side.

Most of what you describe is common knowledge to people on this sub but one thing you've tweaked on which I find interesting is detail. Yes you're right, they never go into detail and that's because when you actually scrutinise their behaviour and what their 'experiences' are they are often completely full of shit or they are the ones making everybody else uncomfortable.

mtcapri · 2019-03-03T23:30:22+00:00

When the popular narrative is that women are oppressed, many women will feel oppressed and perceive oppression everywhere. Likewise, they will go about doing the same things to men they claim are oppressive when men do it to them, because most people lack the reflectivity to actually check their biases.

Maito_Guy · 2019-03-03T23:50:54+00:00

I had a similar experience in childcare. If you are a man that loves being around kids you are probably a pedo.

Daemonicus · 2019-03-03T23:41:48+00:00

This is really a rhetorical question, but I see it a ton in education

As a psychologist that works closely with schools, and educational staff on a regular basis... It's because most women just flat out suck at handling things. The women that can handle it are seen as cold, and stern. Yet they're the ones that are getting shit done... They're not gossiping all day, and crying in the break room because of some coworker drama.

Jex117 · 2019-03-04T00:58:05+00:00

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eliminating-feminist-teacher-bias-erases-boys-falling-grades-study-finds

Has the Sexual Revolution, and the feminist ideology that drives it, pushed men out of universities by undermining boys in school as early as kindergarten? Some writers are beginning to connect the dots between the shift over the last few decades in educational practices from fact-based grading to evaluation based on “non-cognitive” and “emotional skills” and the drop in school performance of boys.

In the 1970s, feminist critics regularly complained that the school system favored “male thinking.” Facts, dates, rote learning, and math skills that were seen as “too masculine” for girls. In the intervening decades, feminists have made huge strides throughout the Western world, and education – particularly in the training of teachers – has been transformed as a result.

That most government policy makers and academics accept this as an unqualified success has left bewilderment as to how the new, more “fair” teaching styles have resulted in poor outcomes for boys and ultimately for the men they must become.

https://seii.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/SEII-Discussion-Paper-2016.07-Terrier-1.pdf

I use a combination of blind and non-blind test scores to show that middle school teachers favor girls when they grade. This favoritism, estimated in the form of individual teacher effects, has long-term consequences: as measured by their national evaluations three years later, male students make less progress than their female counterparts. Gender-biased grading accounts for 21 percent of boys falling behind girls in math during middle school. On the other hand, girls who benefit from gender bias in math are more likely to select a science track in high school.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/3641881/Feminising-education-is-of-benefit-to-no-one.html

If some state school classrooms have become anti-competitive, neglecting the problem-solving that boys traditionally enjoy, that is partly the result of the ideological prejudices of the educational establishment. But it may also have a more straightforward cause: the shortage of male teachers.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20327467/ns/health-health_care/t/iowa-pay-subjects-k-stuttering-study/

The state has agreed to pay $925,000 to unwitting subjects of an infamous 1930s stuttering experiment — orphans who were badgered and belittled as children by University of Iowa researchers trying to induce speech impediments.

‘The Monster Study’ The 1939 experiment has come to be known as “The Monster Study” because of its methods and the theory researchers set out to prove — that stuttering is a learned behavior that can be induced in children.

Over a six-month period, Dr. Wendell Johnson, a nationally renowned pioneer in the field of speech pathology, and his staff tested his theory on 22 children who were in the care of the state-run Iowa Soldiers’ Orphans’ Home. Some were subjected to steady harassment, badgering and other negative therapy in an attempt to get them to stutter; the rest served as a control group.

According to the study, none became stutterers, but some became reluctant to speak or self-conscious about their speech.

Hazel Potter Dornbush, 84, of Clinton, who was 15 when she was chosen for the study, said she is relieved the case is settled.

“It was awful stressful all these years. I’m just glad it’s over,” she said. “How would you like to have them turn over all your past for the last 80 years?”

Dornbush said she recalls 22 children being taken from the state-run Iowa Soldiers’ Orphans’ Home to be used in the research. She said many of the children were told they stuttered even if they didn’t, and the researchers said they were there to help them stop.

“I call that brainwashing. I don’t care what anybody else calls it, that’s my language. I was wise to it right away, but I cooperated. You know we weren’t in no position to argue with nobody. We had nobody to lean on to help us out.”

The current movement to "Cure Toxic Masculinity" is an unsanctioned psychiatric experiment, based in the notion that masculinity is a learned behavior, that "boys can unlearn their toxicity." It's human experimentation on a mass scale.

Anyone reading this who's currently in school, or has boys currently in school, I strongly encourage you to begin documenting incidents of gendered discrimination and psychological abuse - every instance of badgering, condescension, harassment, and belittlement by the hands of educators should be immediately written down in full details, with date, time, and location.

These records should be preserved indefinitely. You never know when you might need them in court.

AmalgamateSociety · 2019-03-04T00:11:38+00:00

The best therapist I ever had was a young man. He was caring, and didn't seem autonomous. The worst one I had was an older woman (late 50s).

2019-03-04T00:31:58+00:00

Because you are working hard to get into the field regardless of it being female dominate, they view you as a threat. Could be you're better skill wise, people and soft skills, etc. They get into their pro-female dominant fields with ease, while also getting scholarships and the like to enter male dominated fields. If they don't continue to perpetuate the lie that "all women in the workplace are oppressed" they have to by default work as hard or harder than you to succeed. The victimizing of themselves also lacks any sort of evidence like you've mentioned other than hearsay.

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