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Michael Flood teams up with Jesuit Social Services to "help" men who are "trapped" inside something called the Man Box. And by "help" i mean "attack," of course.

ThePigmanAgain

October 15, 2018
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/r/MensRights
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/sydney-swans-josh-kennedy-is-teaching-his-son-its-ok-to-cry/10338076
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Title Michael Flood teams up with Jesuit Social Services to "help" men who are "trapped" inside something called the Man Box. And by "help" i mean "attack," of course.
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ThePigmanAgain

Upvotes 17
Comments 14
Date October 15, 2018 9:36 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9oh41t/michael_flood_teams_up_with_jesuit_social/
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[–]tenchineuro 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The degree to which young men feel pressured to adopt traditional ideals of manhood has been revealed in a new study commissioned by Jesuit Social Services.

The research uses an analytical survey called the "the man box" to ask young men a series of questions, exploring their attitudes and behaviours towards a range of topics, including:

Gender norms:

  • Health and wellbeing
  • Physical appearance
  • Relationships
  • Risk taking
  • Violence
  • Bystander behaviour

The survey was developed by an international research body and conducted in the United States, the United Kingdom and in Mexico.

Jesuit Social Services gained access to the survey and used it to conduct the first nationwide study of what Australians think about manhood, questioning 1,000 young men aged 18 to 30.

It found two-thirds of young men said they had been told a "real man" behaved in a certain way since they were a boy.

"This survey shows us traditional ideals of manhood in Australia are alive and well," co-author Dr Michael Flood said.

Did the study tell you that the boys were just trying to live up to expectations? Perhaps if society gave boys the same flexibility they give women, boys would do better,

[–]Sasha_ 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Here's what confuses me: this is a Catholic Jesuit charity. Flood says - “About one third of young men endorsed male dominance in a household - and that’s pretty troubling,” says Michael Flood of #themanbox findings."

Now I think he's a twat, but even if someone agrees with him, how is this in any remote way based on the Bible?

[–]Halafax 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

how is this in any remote way based on the Bible?

Which part of covering up pedophile priests was based on the Bible?

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Well it probably wasn't, but I don't think any priest would have gone on Twitter to promote it. I mean I know it's a bit old-fashioned to say so, but I would rather expect the Roman Catholic church to give some credence to: "But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman and God is the head of Christ." 1 Cor 11:3

To put this even more bluntly: is Michael Flood a Roman Catholic? If he isn't, then what the hell is he doing preaching to Catholic children?

Some of these 'learning sessions' he's talking about where children are encouraged to 'deconstruct behavior' - sounds like a confessional to me - I thought only priests could hear confession?

[–]IronJohnMRA 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

To put this even more bluntly: is Michael Flood a Roman Catholic? If he isn't, then what the hell is he doing preaching to Catholic children?

I hate to interrupt here but the Jesuits and Michael Flood have something in common:

They are both feminists.

I'm guessing you knew this about Flood but not the Society of Jesus.

This should probably help you sort out their motives.

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[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sorry if it's not to much trouble would you tell me more about this? Although I'm Catholic I don't really know anything about them.

[–]IronJohnMRA 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sure. Jesuits are essentially the leftists of the Catholic Church. Since they are Christian they have a strong tendency towards gynocentrism. These two factors combined make them a natural fit for feminism. Let me offer you an example. The Jesuits running Boston College allowed a heinous rad fem called Mary Daly to preach her hate for about three decades until they were forced to finally remove her.

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[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for that. I was just brought-up bog-ordinary Irish Catholic and wasn't really aware of any of this. What's the more sensible (OK centre/right) part of the Catholic Church.

Incidentally, I'm strongly considering writing to someone (but who? the archbishop? I'm in the U.K. so not sure how that works)

[–]IronJohnMRA 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand your frustrations, I was raised Catholic as well, but in the United States. Still I would suggest not writing the letters you plan at this time. As you are probably aware the current Pope is a Jesuit. Any efforts you make against them will thwarted by the churches highest office in the Vatican. Instead, refocusing your efforts against feminism and in favor of men's rights would be a better use of your time, IMO.

[–]iainmf 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1) Define masculinity as negative traits

2) Conduct a study that finds masculinity negatively affects men

3) ????

4) Profit

Here's the actual study: https://jss.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-Man-Box-A-study-on-being-a-young-man-in-Australia.pdf

[–]nforne 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men will continue to be masculine for as long as women desire masculine men.

There's a reason male strippers dress as firemen.

[–]Sasha_ 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this the same broadcaster responsible or he privilege rap?.

Anyway, which is it girls? On the one hand you're mad about rape, on the other hand your desperate to import more jobless Muslim rapists in to the country. I wish you'd make your mind up.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/DYcN3

[–]ZimbaZumba 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What makes a man become who he is complex, nuanced and deeply affected by the forces of evolutionary psychology (i.e. sex). If you manage to implement:-

"What the Men's Project is trying to achieve is to allow people to be themselves, and not feeling that they have to be any which way,"

then men will end up pretty much as they are now.

However, this project is disingenuous, it is trying to define ideologically what men should be. History shows us that simple minded models of society that fit on the back of envelope and deny human nature are disasterous. The whole project is despicable.

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