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Woman rapes man in Germany and gets pregnant from it: Man still has to pay alimony

HauptsacheGegenGruen

September 12, 2018
312 upvotes
/r/MensRights

explained by lawyer (only in german): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYklPIrJsok&feature=youtu.be&t=119

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Title Woman rapes man in Germany and gets pregnant from it: Man still has to pay alimony
Author

HauptsacheGegenGruen

Upvotes 312
Comments 27
Date September 12, 2018 6:15 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9f58gc/woman_rapes_man_in_germany_and_gets_pregnant_from/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-rapes-man-in-germany-and-gets-pregnant-from.894317
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Comments

[+]RobertCatherine1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

"He should've thought of that before he had sex." /s

Are there any other multi-victim crimes where it's the norm to further harm one of the victims to mitigate the harm to the other victim (and/or further enrich the perpetrator)?

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

the election lists of the green party (sect) in germany has to be at least half women. AT LEAST.

[–]jp_mra 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've had several feminists tell me - to my face, in person - that a man 'has the right to keep his penis in his pants if he doesn't want a child.' I can imagine the uproar if abortion was made illegal and some 'old white men' told her 'you have the right to keep your legs together.'

[–]C2074579 22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This just makes me sad.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

renate künast, a member of the green party (sect) and former minister in germany, once said that only women would sit in managing-commitees if the members solely would have been chosen by competence. huge parts of the german federal parliament applauded.

[–]C2074579 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, I am honestly baffled by that. Like holy cow.

[+]Random_throwaway_0001 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

How is a convicted rapist suitable to be the main custodial parent?

[–]papahippo 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great question. I’ve asked the judge in Norton, KS several times. During initial paternity hearings, subsequent custody hearings, her child abuse hearings...doesn’t matter. None of it.

[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

mommy knows best whats good for the kid. Even if she raped someone to get that kid. Feminism in a nutshell.

[–]Venomrod 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I would go to prison before paying.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. And consider a hunger strike. This is just outrageous.

[–]papahippo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You will. Don’t let it happen.

[–]TheChronographer 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Legit, I would just kill myself. After making sure none of my life insurance would pay out or would go to the woman.

[–]papahippo 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Fuck that. Happened to me. In Kansas.

[–]AdAstra_Beer 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Hermesmann v. Seyer, 847 P.2d 1273 (Kan. 1993)?

" Nowhere does the law in this state suggest that the mother's "wrongdoing" can operate as a setoff or bar to a father's liability for child support." Edit - the quote is from the Supreme Court of Kansas' decision.

[–]papahippo 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It was my going away party. I was leaving for oil field work the next day. I was drugged.

6 years later, 5,000 miles away I get a summons. Married, two kids of my own...I’m the piece of shit for “running from my responsibilities”. ~state attorney quote.

[–]OnlyTheRealAdvice 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What did you do? Did you pay?

[–]papahippo 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was sued into oblivion by the state of Kansas for a 5 y/o child that had no knowledge of because her mother had been on welfare the entire time. At 2 years old my daughter broke her arm, mother was found criminally negligent for it and I was still responsible for repaying that hospital bill.

Then I had to pay insane amounts of current child support. They saw a 23 year old Alaskan oil field worker with a 6 figure salary who had a baby with a habitually unemployed welfare queen and thought they hit the jackpot.

Kansas didn’t care that the cost of living is insanely high here, or that in Alaska at the time $97,000 for a family of five is the poverty line, they financially crippled my family for 14 more years.

[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this here, is why only man should have any right to decide about his finances, in any form or extent. No child support should be allowed to exist, if he chooses so.

[–]Corvo9393 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is just pathetic. Are the lawmakers of these countries serious?

[–]Corvo9393 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What?!?$ I thought I have heard it all. I didn't such countries would go that far. Germany is that twisted?

[–]DolphinsAreOk 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The same happens in the US.

[–]Corvo9393 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, I know it does. I believe the US is notorious for the evil child support, alimnoy, and divorce settlement cases and believe it has the most horrendous family/divorce court system of all.

I didn't know it was that bad in Germany, though I knew Eurpoean countries were no different. They are also, 1st world westernized countries as well.

[–]DolphinsAreOk 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yes. because of bad remorse for ns-dicatorship, parts of germany are far left and became so anti-discrimination mad that they started disciminating germans/men...

[–]Corvo9393 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That case is just so messed up. That's an injustice.

[–]Rockbottom503 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There can be no excuse for this! Women use rape cases to justify abortion as a principle - how can it not be right that men in this situation are, not only, not afforded the same option of putting their ordeal behind them and moving on with their life; but are actually expected to pay their rapist for 19 years because of the crimes and subsequent choices that their rapist committed!

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