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Sacked saleswoman told to pay Intel £45k after losing discrim case (and accusing her former boss of perjuring himself)

not_quite_jason

March 8, 2018
306 upvotes
/r/PussyPassDenied
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/07/intel_discrimination_case_dismissed_45k_costs/
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Title Sacked saleswoman told to pay Intel £45k after losing discrim case (and accusing her former boss of perjuring himself)
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not_quite_jason

Upvotes 306
Comments 19
Date March 8, 2018 5:11 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/82z456/sacked_saleswoman_told_to_pay_intel_45k_after/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/904736
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[–]RedRumRaider1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Rod at no time ever, offered to help or coach me . . .

So a "strong, confident" woman gets upset when someone doesn't volunteer to help boost their career? The level of entitlement is off the fucking charts.

[–]ragingfartalot 35 points36 points37 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She means "strong and confident" in a similar sense to show little kids feel strong and confident after watching Home Alone and thinking they can beat up criminals in real life.

Even the language she uses is embarassingly childlike. Never "offered to help." That's not the way adults talk. Adults ask for help if they need it, or ask for coaching in specific areas. Or they suck it up and do it themselves. Little kids are the ones that wait for people to offer them things.

[–]14936786-02 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While this sucks for the guy, Im glad women are doing this shit. In the long run no one will want to hire them, no one will interview them, no one will work with them, and no body will even want to be around then especially not alone.

After that metoo crap men started feeling uneasy about women and that feeling is growing. But they will blame men for that too.

[–]baconit4eva 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Her first mistake was representing herself. My guess is that she tried to get counsel but they probably all said she doesn't have a chance in winning.

[–]Izithel 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her first mistake was representing herself.

I guess who ever told her the classic line of "A man who represents himself has a fool for a client." was a man and she dismissed it as mansplaining.

[–]LowRentMegazord 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"There's nothing in that expression about a strong, confident woman who don't need no man representing herself. Such a woman has a fierce tiger for a client."

[–]not_quite_jason[S] 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She "was also warned by the judge to stop accusing O’Shea of perjuring himself".

OMG why couldn't she accuse him? Is it because the Judge is a male?

[–]ragingfartalot 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her self-representing shenanigans reminds me of "Single Female Lawyer" from Futurama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erBj7WBvP1Q

Can't find the clip but there's an awesome exchange in that episode:

Lrrr: Surely you know McNeal. She is an unmarried human female struggling to succeed in a human male's world.

Zapp Brannigan: Maybe that's just her excuse for being incompetent.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Single Female Lawyer,

fighting for her clients,

wearing sexy miniskirts

and being self-reliant.

[–]HiredMind 46 points47 points48 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Rod at no time ever, offered to help or coach me, ...

Well good for him, for protecting himself from some bullshit sexual harassment claim. May this trend continue, and get wider.

[–]wallacehacks 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you but taking half of that quote out of context makes it sound wayyyyy more whiny in my opinion.

“Rod at no time ever, offered to help or coach me, instead he made my life a misery and deliberately and spuriously damaged my reputation,” she said in her witness statement.

[–]HiredMind 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

True but that wasn't my intention. It's the only part of her statement that I wanted to comment upon.

I've read articles recently where men in leadership positions are treating women as radioactive (refusing to mentor, refusing to be alone with them, socialize, etc) due to the threat of having some made up #MeToo nonsense ruin their careers. I can't think of a better comeuppance for fostering our current false rape accusation culture.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've read articles recently where men in leadership positions are treating women as radioactive (refusing to mentor, refusing to be alone with them, socialize, etc) due to the threat of having some made up #MeToo nonsense ruin their careers.

My husband and I run a tech business, and he just asked me to mentor one of our female employees for this exact reason.

I'm working with her, but she's not getting the best guidance. Like, I really love this work, but I've only been at it for about a decade (and honestly I've only gotten really serious about it in the past 4-5 years.) My husband, on the other hand, has been doing this stuff since he was a kid.

I suppose the bright spot in this is that teaching her has reinforced my own knowledge base.

[–]wallacehacks 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah wasn't trying to accuse you. I don't think the rest of the quote takes away from your point I just wanted to add the context in case other lazy people like me who read the comments before the article got the wrong idea.

[–]HiredMind 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah wasn't trying to accuse you.

No worries, I didn't think that. Just took the opportunity to explain further.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to clarify that the article states she was made to pay 45k because intel claim that they overpaid her for sales work which she was not responsible for, after the review of her which concluded that she should be fired, presumably because of the review.

[–]not_quite_jason[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Even the most rabid Intel hater will admit that a professional playing the Pussy Pass Card "OMG he's perjuring himself" in court, casts quite the doubt about her actual sales performance.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We don't know why they concluded that she owed them money. I agree that the type of person to do that is also very similar to the type of person that would lie about her sales performance. But its not guaranteed and there could be any number of reasons for the review.

[–]StarkweatherRoadTrip"I cut my teddy bear a butthole and fucked it from 12-15" 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know that request looks fair and balanced on paper, but I FEEL differently.

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