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In an article about male feminists the author believes sexism is theoretical to men and men do not know what it is like to live with sexism every single waking hour of their lives.

iBird

October 24, 2017
46 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://web.archive.org/web/20170902223644/http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/sexism-men-woke-misogynists-feminism-male-feminists-what-to-do-a7660841.html
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Title In an article about male feminists the author believes sexism is theoretical to men and men do not know what it is like to live with sexism every single waking hour of their lives.
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iBird

Upvotes 46
Comments 8
Date October 24, 2017 12:48 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/78c9ly/in_an_article_about_male_feminists_the_author/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/in-an-article-about-male-feminists-the-author.912472
https://theredarchive.com/post/912472
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Comments

[–]HeForeverBleeds 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First of all, if you are more upset about being told that you are being sexist than actually thinking about the problem that has been raised, it means that you are more upset about defending your own ego than validating the experience of the woman in front of you. Sounds a lot like sexism, right?

So basically, if ever a woman accuses a man of being sexist, then 100% of the time she's right and he's in the wrong. That's the part about this that sounds sexist: this assumption that her opinion that he's being a misogynist is automatically more valid than his opinion that he's not due to nothing other than her gender

If a woman is saying you are being sexist, you definitely have to listen, because you’ve never lived life as a woman and don’t know what it is like to face sexism every single waking hour of your life.

And what percentage of women have experienced being a man? And yet they'll dogmatically conclude that men don't know what it's like to face sexism

Honestly, what man--or any person, for that matter--would want to become a feminist after reading this? I've never been a feminists, so it's hard for me to say; but this sounds like that kind of thing that would turn even moderates away

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So wait, I'm now expected to prioritize validating women over defense of my self. I really don't think these women get what equality really means because the day one man is called something by another man and just sits listening saying 'Well I want to defend myself but don't want to not validate his experience" is the day I eat my bloody hat.

[+]iBird1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That is where I just gave up reading about it, I'm sure there is more of this actually sexist article about sexism.

[–]Yndrd1984 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the comments are amazing, and not part of the archive:

Well thank God I'm not a feminist then! This way I have no obligation to tolerate having my words and actions micromanaged by a female supremacist.

If feminism believes women are this pathetic, inept, and entitled then comically it is the feminists who are the actual sexists.

The article dose an excellent job in discouraging people from wanting to identify as feminist. As clearly illustrated Feminism is a pure hate movement and is also cancer.

and another 5 women read this article and decide to join the majority of women and refuse to identify as feminists because they think the movement is run by a bunch of bigoted loons. - Keep up the good work...

Kirsty, get over it. For a generation, men were ready to listen to your whingeing because, after all, there was probably some substance in it. But for years now, it's become increasingly clear that you whinge as a matter of habit, no more. Your comment "he alone, as a real feminist, truly knows when the spectre of sexism has entered the room." is as sexist as they come because you're really saying "only I, as a woman, truly know when the spectre of sexism etc etc". Well guess what? After twenty years of listening, I no longer care what you think.

Heck, Karen Straughan has one of the most-upvoted comments.

[–]TibsKirk 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Dear men, you need to listen to us about sexism, but we don't need to listen to you about sexism. If you don't agree, go directly to no-woke prison and do not pass go."

[–]Tedesche 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women don't face sexism every single hour of their lives. Only feminists do—because practically everything is sexist to them.

[–]KingRobotPrince 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why did I foolishly think that she would go on to explain how feminism is "only theoretical" to men? That was silly of me.

It's like some people literally think that you can't be sexist to a man. I thought that was something people said as a joke. What is this world coming to?

Is it really a progressive and equal society if you can treat a man negatively because he is a man and it not be considered sexist?

It actually makes me wonder if these women aren't really wanting the guy to say "yeah I know, I am a bit sexist, but women are all mental ha ha, let me get that door for you, do you need help with your bags?" Like the whole "I am a strong independent feminist, but I would quite like a big strong man to sweep me off my feet and buy me dinner." You really can't have it both ways.

[–]Brusanan 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's fitting that this article was published on April 1st.

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