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CPS chief Alison Saunders blasted for claiming the number of rape convictions is more than double the real figure

JohnKimble111

October 22, 2017
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5004691/CPS-chief-exaggerated-number-rape-convictions.html
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Title CPS chief Alison Saunders blasted for claiming the number of rape convictions is more than double the real figure
Author

JohnKimble111

Upvotes 33
Comments 7
Date October 22, 2017 11:11 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/783po9/cps_chief_alison_saunders_blasted_for_claiming/
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Comments

[–]paracog 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't happen to a nastier excuse for a human being. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/alison-saunders-should-be-sacked-for-the-janner-case-and-for-her-absurd-views-on-rape-10353802.html

[–]furchfur 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is significant news. Tuck this one away it will be useful in discussions.

The CPS is undoubtedly a man hating institution

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The chief of some thing like cps should really know her shit. That being said... saying rape occurs significantly more than convictions is still very likely true. Since no one honestly thinks 100% of cases are reported, investigated and convicted 100% of the time for any offences

[–]Alzael 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That being said... saying rape occurs significantly more than convictions is still very likely true.

Actually no one can honestly say that because both the number of rapes that go unreported and the number of rapes that are false are unknown. It's entirely possible that there's a higher percentage of false rapes that end in convictions than there are unreported ones.

In which case rape would actually occur less often than convictions.

[+]britfi1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

There are measures for the number of crimes that go unreported, e.g. they survey people and ask if they've been a victim of a crime that they've not reported. Of course that is an 'alleged rape' as it's not been proven in court.

[–]Alzael 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are measures for the number of crimes that go unreported

None of which are reliable in any form.

they survey people and ask if they've been a victim of a crime that they've not reported.

That's actually not how they do it. At least as for as the Bureau of Justice Statistics is concerned. The BJS asks the people it surveys various questions and they themselves determine whether it was an actual crime and also what kind of crime it was. And their classifications of crimes tend to be rather broad. For instance they classify any kind of rape threat under the category of "attempted rape".

Of course that is an 'alleged rape' as it's not been proven in court.

Yes, as I said. The numbers are not known. So one cannot say that the numbers of one side are greater than the other.

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That being said... saying rape occurs significantly more than convictions is still very likely true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria

I don't think so.

And she's doubling the number of rape convictions, and then saying there's more rape than that. Probably to get to 1 in 5.

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