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Killed Deadpool 2 stuntwoman 'overpromoted because she was the right race and gender'

kmecha9

August 24, 2017
445 upvotes
/r/PussyPassDenied
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/deadpool-2-producers-warned-prior-stuntwoman-death-wasnt-job-080356876.html
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Title Killed Deadpool 2 stuntwoman 'overpromoted because she was the right race and gender'
Author

kmecha9

Upvotes 445
Comments 63
Date August 24, 2017 11:13 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/6vunj5/killed_deadpool_2_stuntwoman_overpromoted_because/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/PussyPassDenied/killed-deadpool-2-stuntwoman-overpromoted-because.915326
https://theredarchive.com/post/915326
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[–]kmecha9[S] 281 points282 points283 points 8 years ago* (21 children) | Copy Link

Stunt performers who worked on ‘Deadpool 2’ have said that they warned producers of the movie that newcomer Joi ‘SJ’ Harris, who died in a motorcycle accident on set, was not up to the job.[...]

“I cringed every time she went out. Like, when is she going to crash? They were warned, yes!”

“The producers put pressure to have somebody of the same sex and ethnicity in a position she wasn’t qualified to be in,” said Conrad Palmisano

Pretty sad :(

She got a pussypass...and then got denied paying with her life. That's why judging a person by their ability is important. She didn't have all the requirements or experience to actually do the full job(stunt), and got through because of right race and gender.

[–]BlackHaz3 125 points126 points127 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

But that's racist

/s

[–]Ormolus 75 points76 points77 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

And sexist! /s

[–]WilliamBott 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And...Islamophobic?

[–]Norn_Queen_Yurei 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She sexually identifies as a plate glass window

[–]WilliamBott 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know. I'm a white male so I'm just trying to figure out what I'm going to get blamed for today.

[–]Mikekit9 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same

[–]cruisinbyonawhim 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure before they plucked the glass from her body that she could have identified as half plate glass window for her face, since she wasn't wearing a helmet.

[–]HalfDragonShiro 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes because Islam is a race! /s

[–]WilliamBott 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just want to know what's my fault today. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]LatexSanta 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently, so are the laws of physics, otherwise she wouldn't have crashed and lost her life.

[–]TonyTheTerrible 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

affirmative action in place

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's not affirmative action to hire someone who looks similar to one of the main actors or actresses in a movie or film.

[–]kmecha9[S] 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not affirmative action to hire someone who looks similar to one of the main actors or actresses in a movie or film.

If you hire a stunt women or man who can't do the stunts as required but let them pass simply because they have the right gender and ethnicity....that's a like affirmative action. The still can't do the job, but got hired.

All you have left is a normal actor...which they already have.

They could have used another legit stunt women or man in greensuit or just CGI. They have a huge budget. The first movie scored millions. The producers of that movie were repeatedly warned the unqualified stuntwomen is going to get hurt but pressured to keep her on because she was the right race and gender.

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Woman. Women. There's a difference.

[–]cruisinbyonawhim 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then why not include - Woman (Singular) / Women (Plural)?

Instead of being a twat?

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because I assumed that even retards had managed to master grade 1 grammar.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Hey Dave are you sure about this stunt girl? She doesn't really seem that tough."

"It's okay, Bill! It's about time women got a chance to do dangerous physical activity!"

10 min later

"Fuck"

[–]Achack 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She got a pussypass...

No she didn't. She took advantage of an opportunity with a risk. All those stunt people are risking something with each stunt, she decided to up the ante.

[+]Allthehigherground -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why didn't she just wear a fucking helmet lol. I mean, people who don't wear helmets just IRL are stupid as fuck. If you don't wear one while doing motorcycle stunts on one of the most insane motorcycles on the planet, let's hope you didn't reproduce.

[–]ClashMCTitan 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

...It's called a stunt for a reason.

You know how in those car commercials they have "Professional driver on closed course" messages at the bottom?

That's because the people doing the stunt are--wait for it--professional drivers. Their job is to drive vehicles in crazy stunts for commercials. She is supposed to be qualified to drive a motorcycle in more dangerous ways than a normal everyday driver. Driving a motorcycle without a helmet isn't as dangerous as a lot of stunts shown in movies and commercials.

Which is why it is important to hire based on skill and experience, not race and sex. If you want a black woman to play the part, fine, but she also has to be qualified.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I want my super heroes wearing helmets while they fight crime you shit lord.

[–]StrongblackfemaleI only film vertically 151 points152 points153 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm shocked a writer for Yahoo was willing to report on this. He will be fired immediately.

[–]SnowflakeTearsFuelMe 65 points66 points67 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm more shocked there was a white male working there

[–]daymo 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't see why they couldn't use a more qualified stunt actor in a green suit and just post process that shit. This was an accident waiting to happen

[–]igraywolf1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Because that's a lot more expensive

[–]DickyDonger 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Better than a woman dying

[–]fatalicus 47 points48 points49 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Not realy a pussypass was it?

They didn't want her to do it just because she was a woman and black, but because the person she was doing stunts for was a woman and black and they wanted the stunt person to be as close as possible.

That said, safety is always first, and the director should have gone for someone who could have done it safely.

[–]SneakyTouchy 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not realy a pussypass was it?

Well the pussy did pass so...

[–]ebolalunch 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(Slow clap, standing up) Bravo sir, bravo!

[–]Archibald_Andino 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The story, and you're right it might be fake news, is that she was pushed to the front of the line for PC/SJW shinaningans in spite of her not being qualified and, ironically, this seemingly benevolent gesture ends up costing her her life. So sad.

[–]fatalicus 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

she was pushed to the front of the line for PC/SJW shinaningans

It doesn't say that in the linked story though.

There are two places where her gender and skin colour is mentioned:

There are also suggestions that producers pressured their stunt coordinators to use Harris because she was African-American, and a believable stand-in for Zazie Beetz, the actress playing the character of Domino, despite her lack of experience.

So the directors chose her because she was the same skin colour as the actor she was stunting for.

“The producers put pressure to have somebody of the same sex and ethnicity in a position she wasn’t qualified to be in,”

Again, they chose her because she was similar to the actor.

So nothing about she getting ahead of the line just because of her gender and the colour of her skin, just because the director/producer chose a stuntwoman that they thought fit the part without considering her actual qualifications as a stuntwoman.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No no, you're ruining the narrative. Now how will I be able to celebrate someone's death without feeling like an asshole?

[–]ebolalunch 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad there was no alternative way to do this. Oh wait...

[–]brildenlanch 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well the original character is white so this lady wouldn't have even been there period if they weren't trying to shoehorn minorities into the film

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This subreddit hates women almost as much as MGTOW.

[–]kmecha9[S] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This subreddit hates women almost as much as MGTOW. -SteelReserveMonk

Overpromote an unqualified stuntwomen because she was right race/gender, resulting her getting killed on set. “You must hate women.”

Disagree with overpromoting an unqualified stuntwomen because she was right race/gender to prevent them from getting killed on set. “You must hate women.”

Show concern and suggest a reasonable solution of CGI or greensuits to prevent a unqualified stunt women from killing themselves on set. "You must hate women."

[–]Dead_Art 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She died because nobody wanted to appear racist/sexist and just dress up a qualified stunt person

[–]chambertlo 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, isn't this interesting. You mean she wasn't really qualified for the job but she got it anyway? Feminists continue to have blood on their hands.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is what I call progress. Gender quotas for workplace related deaths. I love it.

And bring in some white women too while we are at it.

[–]anooblol 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This isn't really a pussypass. She was promoted because of her race and gender, not because of some system, but because the actor she was standing in for was a black woman. It makes perfect sense.

It's not like she was standing in for a white man. They just wanted the movie to be accurate. It would be really strange if they got a white woman as a stunt double for a black woman.

[–]Iconoficons 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not if the white Woman was better qualified for the job, which is all that should matter in a job interview.

[–]anooblol 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not at all. Stop stooping down to the SJW level, no need to go tit for tat against them. Then have a black actor, they need a black stunt double. That's just how it works.

It's like hiring a male waiter at Hooters. Sure it's politically correct, but it completely defeats the purpose of Hooters.

[–]Dishevel 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Makeup does not exist and is not used in the movie industry.
We have never used white stunt doubles for black people.
We have never used men as stunt doubles for women.

Oh. Wait.

[–]SaintSlumlord 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's sad, just another liberal who thinks looking like a good guy is more important than a human life. How typical

[–]Strella10m 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i dont get it, as she is a stuntwoman who is supposed to stand in for a character isnt her being the right race and gender of the stand in actually pretty reasonable, and not equality bullshit.

i.e if the character the stunt person was replacing was a 7ft chinese guy they would look preferably on a 7ft chinese stunt guy.

[–]Dante_The_OG_Demon 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow...talk about serious r/titlegore

[–]gigabyte898 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Stunt doubles have to look like the actor they're standing in for, right? It seems to be less of an issue of "put her in just because she's a black woman" and more of "put her in because the actress she's doubling for is a black woman". Wouldn't make sense to have a white dude double for the actress in question unless he's wearing like a full body suit.

[–]kmecha9[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stunt doubles have to look like the actor they're standing in for, right?

Yes of course, keyword be capable "Stunt" Double who can actually do the stunts. Not just the looks or gender which gave them a pass of being ovepromoted and getting them killed. They needed all the requirements. Another solution is CGI or greensuits(capable stunt person)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You look like everyone with a helmet on.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Realistically it's the stuntman or stuntwoman's job first and foremost to know if they can do what is being asked of them. Accidents happen but no one knows their capabilities for vehicular stunts better than the operator.

This was a tragedy; I don't think this really constitutes PPD. If what the article says is true, then she should have turned down the job, or at least refused the scene in question.

[–]Dishevel 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She used her pussy pass to get a job she was not qualified for.

Reality revoked that pass.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

See, I think that's sort of irrelevant because the job needed to be done by a female - just one with more experience.

[–]bloodbathmat 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like this problem worked itself out.

[–]Ihurtinside 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel bad for her.

[–]PussyPassDENIED 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Incredibly stupid "PC" ridiculous thinking that permeates our society when we should be focused on being a meritocracy.

[–]Drezzzire 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same shit is happening with firefighters, cops and military.

So funny how these idiots think that 'equality' is better when the consequences are worse.

Qualifications and capabilities are everything

This bullshit has to stop

Or bitches can just keep dying and getting injured. Meh, either way

[–]mrlizbn 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't think this is inherently PPD or even a case of racial preference.

If you have a character that is black and female, you need not only the actor to be black and female but also the stunt person.

Finding a black, female stuntwoman with motorcycle training is a very difficult thing to find, yes she may not have been fully qualified but this is the life she lives and she knew the risks.

this is a sad event that is being misrepresented to fuel hate.

[–]Dishevel 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Often they just use makeup.
Small framed guy with makeup and a wig add a little CGI and all is good.

[–]mrlizbn 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In a movie production (especially one of this size) ever dollar spent comes into account. Why spend extra on makeup- CGI studio hours, when you can just get the person who fits the bill?

[–]Dishevel 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they were not even close to able to do the job.

[–]ebolalunch -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Deadpool 2 will have a gorilla riding a motorcycle? That sounds cool as fuck!

[–]kmecha9[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That could be interesting...I mean they already have "Hit Monkey" in the Marvel universe that fights along side Deadpool?

http://comicattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hitmonkeyimage4.jpg

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