[Anti-MRM] About alt-right, and... Men’s rights activists, "You’ll find them at /r/Incels ... /r/MGTOW ... /r/TheRedPill ... as well as misogynistic sites like 'Return of Kings'"

StarshipSum · 2017-08-19T17:15:44+00:00

Men’s rights activists. This group consists of those who explicitly campaign for men’s rights (custody battles and workplace deaths are their favorite talking points) and also includes anti-feminists and misogynists of all stripes. You’ll find them at /r/Incels (short for “involuntary celibates,” who want to have sex or find a partner but can’t—and blame women for this), /r/MGTOW (“Men Going Their Own Way,” who believe that they can only find true liberation in a female-dominated world by refusing to interact with women completely), the infamous /r/TheRedPill, and a few less popular “Manosphere” subreddits as well as misogynistic sites like “Return of Kings. You’ll find them referring to women as “females,” and men they perceive as weak as “cucks” (more on that later).

lol they mention a bunch of subs that have nothing to do with men's rights and are in many cases anti mens rights. This is blatant propaganda. But hey, feminists gonna feminist.

Lethn · 2017-08-19T17:26:39+00:00

What I find most annoying about articles like this and I should be used to this by now but they keep getting away with it, is when they make these claims they are completely making shit up. I mean it, they're not even trying.

As part of the Alt-Right Open Intelligence Initiative at the University of Amsterdam, I’ve been working to understand the language of the alt-right and what it can tell us about its members. Working with the UK Home Office’s Extremism Analysis Unit, I used Google’s BigQuery tool, which lets you trawl through massive datasets in seconds, to interrogate a collection of every reddit comment ever made—all 3 billion of them.

Word analysis means absolutely nothing and here's the thing about actual trolls, the internet pranksters, once they know you're deliberately searching for these terms and basing your entire thought process on them they're going to spam it like crazy just to fuck with you. The fact that the UK home office has an 'extremism analysis unit' that records data on this to me is deeply disturbing and it is no wonder the country in such a state if a fucking reddit shit post is how they find out who extremists are, this is ridiculous.

The journalist even admits there is no coherent 'organisation' calling themselves the alt-right because they're making it up.

The alt-right isn’t one group. They don’t have one coherent identity. Rather, they’re a loose collection of people from disparate backgrounds who would never normally interact

Yes and you fucking made them! With your bullshit mischaracterisations and total lies about what they believe and what their ideologies are. Honestly, they really are just making it up and they fucking know they're making it up as well, the only ones who actually believe this shit are the truly deluded and fanatical readers.

You’re most likely to see them deliberately provoking offense and outrage, often using the most extreme racist, sexist, and anti-Semitic slurs, but without necessarily fully buying into racist ideology. They’re the people you can’t argue with, because any attempt to engage them in a serious conversation will provoke an “only joking!” plea.

No, that's not what is happening at all, the reason they're people you can't argue with is because they are joking and they're in utter hysterics that you're actually taking any of this shit seriously. The reason they don't interact with you is because they know you're a moron and you're going to try guilt tripping them into become an SJW and I can't blame them in the slightest for telling you to go fuck yourself, it's the appropriate response.

Anti-progressive gamers. Closely related to the above, these trolls were radicalized over the course of the #GamerGate hate movement. They really like video games, and they really hate social-justice warriors, gay people, and feminists, all of whom they’re pretty sure major movie and game studios are “pandering” to with things like all-female screenings of Wonder Woman.

No the majority of them don't hate gay people at all, they hate feminists and SJWs for sure, because they're made up of self-righteous and arrogant cunts who have deliberately gone out to try and ruin their hobby. Games developers and movie studios are indeed pandering to these groups and the all screenings of wonder woman were completely illegal and discriminating against men, but you don't give a shit about that do you? Because they're all just filthy white straight male loser nerds who don't have anything to complain about because they're 'privileged' and in your mind that justifies lying about them as if they're monsters.

and also includes anti-feminists and misogynists of all stripes.

When you claim that MRAs are misogynists, you should provide evidence to back up your claims, this is the most half-arsed, stupid and slandering article I've come across for awhile yet. Mind you, I suppose we should all be grateful because every time one of these articles come out we get way more people hopping onto this subreddit for a chat and they always come away surprised at how reasonable we all are.

Fortspucking · 2017-08-19T17:32:54+00:00

This reminds me so much of those clueless anti-drug campaigns with their lists of "street slang" to watch out for, lumping all drug users together. Stupid moral panic.

ee4m · 2017-08-19T18:32:43+00:00

The way around this is to be openly anti-fascist and openly anti liberal.

ee4m · 2017-08-19T19:10:19+00:00

Here some info on where the alt right ideology comes from.

Why is America living in an age of profound economic inequality? Why, despite the desperate need to address climate change, have even modest environmental efforts been defeated again and again? Why have protections for employees been decimated? Why do hedge-fund billionaires pay a far lower tax rate than middle-class workers? The conventional answer is that a popular uprising against “big government” led to the ascendancy of a broad-based conservative movement. But as Jane Mayer shows in this powerful, meticulously reported history, a network of exceedingly wealthy people with extreme libertarian views bankrolled a systematic, step-by-step plan to fundamentally alter the American political system.
The network has brought together some of the richest people on the planet. Their core beliefs—that taxes are a form of tyranny; that government oversight of business is an assault on freedom—are sincerely held. But these beliefs also advance their personal and corporate interests: Many of their companies have run afoul of federal pollution, worker safety, securities, and tax laws. The chief figures in the network are Charles and David Koch, whose father made his fortune in part by building oil refineries in Stalin’s Russia and Hitler’s Germany. The patriarch later was a founding member of the John Birch Society, whose politics were so radical it believed Dwight Eisenhower was a communist. The brothers were schooled in a political philosophy that asserted the only role of government is to provide security and to enforce property rights.
When libertarian ideas proved decidedly unpopular with voters, the Koch brothers and their allies chose another path. If they pooled their vast resources, they could fund an interlocking array of organizations that could work in tandem to influence and ultimately control academic institutions, think tanks, the courts, statehouses, Congress, and, they hoped, the presidency. Richard Mellon Scaife, the mercurial heir to banking and oil fortunes, had the brilliant insight that most of their political activities could be written off as tax-deductible “philanthropy.”

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Money-History-Billionaires-Radical/dp/0385535597

MagicTampon · 2017-08-19T19:11:55+00:00

... basically, she directed the to all the places where there are not MRAs and intentionally omitted all the places where there are MRAs.

Wouldn't want people to find out what men's rights is all about, obviously.

ee4m · 2017-08-19T18:10:39+00:00

We need to put a big distance between ourselves and right libertarians and alt right, like we did with return of kings.

Fuck this movement just got a break with the red pill movie and we are already fighting another turd left for us by the right.

Title	[Anti-MRM] About alt-right, and... Men’s rights activists, "You’ll find them at /r/Incels ... /r/MGTOW ... /r/TheRedPill ... as well as misogynistic sites like 'Return of Kings'"
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Date	August 19, 2017 5:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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