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Woman makes up false rape story, gets innocent man convicted 4 years

lifegasm

May 28, 2017

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Title	Woman makes up false rape story, gets innocent man convicted 4 years
Author	lifegasm
Upvotes	96
Comments	11
Date	May 28, 2017 2:18 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6du016/woman_makes_up_false_rape_story_gets_innocent_man/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-makes-up-false-rape-story-gets-innocent-man.921736 https://theredarchive.com/post/921736

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[–]IronJohnMRA 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]turnipmushroom 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]rg57 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]WillMeatLover 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Huh? What?

The answer is not confusing. You don't get in trouble for reporting, even if the police can't find evidence. You get in trouble for PROVEN LIES. It's not the same thing.

Example:

(A) I call the police and say I was mugged by a man, whose description I give. The police find a suspect but fail to prove it was him. Ultimately, nothing happens because of a lack of evidence (I can't ID him properly because his face was covered and my stolen belongings are not found or whatever).

(B) I call the police and say that I was mugged by a man I know. His name is David and I tell the police his details. The police arrest David, but find that he was at the police station when I said he mugged me. It is further discovered that I was at the mall when I said I was mugged and this was caught on camera. It is determined that I was lying and trying to use the police as a weapon. I am charged with perverting the course of justice (or whatever the appropriate crime is).

Situation A is a person making a report that cannot be proven to be true. Situation B is a person making a report that can be proven to be false.

There is no solution required. They can't tell the difference between encouraging people to report and not punishing people for false reports/perjury the same way that they cannot tell the difference between rape and false rape accusations. You can't fix stupid.

[–]turnipmushroom -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you're making an emotional argument rather than a logical one. The primary goal here should be to free innocent men in prison for crimes that did not occur and to prevent future men from being sent to prison for crimes that did not occur.

The question is should false accusers be given more lenient sentences when they come forward after a conviction? There is a valid argument to say yes because this will encourage more false accusers to come forward rather than staying silent and letting their victim rot in prison. I'd rather 100 false accusers come forward and get a slap on the wrist to free their victim than have 99 come forward and get serious prison time and 1 choose not to come forward for fear of punishment.

On the other hand if the false accusation is proven false and the accuser does not admit it and help her victim then I'm all for the punishments you mentioned.

[–]WillMeatLover 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you are not talking about the same thing I am talking about. Making deals with criminals in exchange for some benefit is already a thing, though I forget the proper terminology. I am not a lawyer. The question with regards to that is whether we should be doing it more to free innocent men (we should) whereas no we mostly do that to land bigger criminals (which is simply a separate issue).

Edit: actually, I am the one who made the mistake as I have multiple tabs open. Yes, people should be incentive to tell the truth by being given diminished sentences. The problem is that zero divided by 2 is still zero. Right now, we don't punish this people at all 99% of the time. They should be punished harshly when caught and that is the point from which they should be given reduced sentences when they come forward to admit their crimes themselves.

The sentencing in this case seems fair enough.

[–]iehava 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]CulturalBlasphemy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]feedmecarrots 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]the_unseen_one 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]magicalraven 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link