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An American Math Society blog about why straight white men should quit or take a demotion.

ProblematicReality

May 18, 2017
36 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://blogs.ams.org/inclusionexclusion/2017/05/11/get-out-the-way/
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Title An American Math Society blog about why straight white men should quit or take a demotion.
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ProblematicReality

Upvotes 36
Comments 15
Date May 18, 2017 7:40 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6bykrr/an_american_math_society_blog_about_why_straight/
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/CqQYg

Spread it far and wide folks. The more that are exposed to this, the stronger the backlash we can hope for.

[–]ProblematicReality[S] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Before anything, yes this is real. In fact the person who wrote this is a professor. What she wrote is beyond caricature, I'm not even going to question whether the fact that she has this Job and her PhD in the first place was not a direct result of extreme and convoluted affirmative action.

Some of the quotes and comets from this hellish mess:

"Not to alarm you, but I probably want you to quit your job, or at least take a demotion. Statistically speaking, you are probably taking up room that should go to someone else. If you are a white cis man (meaning you identify as male and you were assigned male at birth) you almost certainly should resign from your position of power. That’s right, please quit. Too difficult? Well, as a first step, at least get off your hiring committee, your curriculum committee, and make sure you’re replaced by a woman of color or trans person. Don’t have any in your department? HOW SHOCKING."

This was actually written on the American Mathematical official blogs.

"You have no idea how successful you would have been if you were still you, but with an additional marginalization (not white, or not male, or not cis gender, or with a disability, etc)."

Reminder that the only reason this woman has her PhD and gets paid to write this vitriol is because of privilege.

"Stop hiring white cis men (except as needed to get/retain people who are not white cis men) until the problem goes away. If you think this is a bad or un-serious idea, your sexism/racism/transphobia is showing."

"GAS THE JEWS! If you think this is a bad idea, your racism is showing!" Now, for those comment section...

"We need to decouple success in mathematics from IQ. IQ is a social construct that cishet white men devised that defines “intelligence” on the basis of culture. Sadly, there is a direct correlation between high IQ and “earning” a PhD in a STEM discipline, which is all too reflective of how white cishet men have designed disciplinary concepts to reinforce their own power structures."

That enough. Fuck this people, fuck this toxic mentality and fuck anyone who stays silent while this shit corrodes at STEM fields.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To be fair, I cannot believe that that last quote is anything but satire. If it's not, then someone come round and shoot me please.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Repeat after me all fellow "cis white male scum"

I Identify as a female, and am a "insert type of european"

[–]Lumberingfeather 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We need to decouple success in mathematics from IQ. IQ is a social construct that cishet white men devised that defines “intelligence” on the basis of culture. Sadly, there is a direct correlation between high IQ and “earning” a PhD in a STEM discipline, which is all too reflective of how white cishet men have designed disciplinary concepts to reinforce their own power structures."

So is this, in a roundabout way, an admission that men do indeed have higher IQs than women, or at least that there are more men with IQs at the very top of the scale than women?

[–]majortom22 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately the evil cis heteronormative patriarchal IQ system has actual predictive power....I knew it! Those bastards designed the world of math to entrench themselves!

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"My husband and I are both exceptionally reasonable and good-intentioned people..."

Sure. Keep taking the tablets.

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even though her husband is a white man holding a professorship. (Robert Harron if anyone wants to search.)

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jews are massively over-represented in the world of Mathematics. Indeed, what is reputed to be the hardest maths course in the world — Math55 — is 45% Jewish men, with ZERO women on the course.

So time to get "cleansing" those sneaky Jews eh? Wait, what? Where have I heard that before???

http://www.aei.org/publication/why-cant-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man-3/

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If only I could find a transgender POC who can code C++.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

IKR, they know all about genders but can't figure out how to run a motor 30 degrees

[–]Cwmcwm 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut to find out what happens when we put weights on the good ballerinas.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

make sure you’re replaced by a woman of color or trans person. Don’t have any in your department? HOW SHOCKING."

Qualifications are, naturally, not nearly as important as melanin or a vaj. And if you're a white mehnz, you ought to at least be allowed to suck a few cocks in front of witnesses to demonstrate that you're not one of those Evil Ones.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

from the comments:

We need to decouple success in mathematics from IQ. IQ is a social construct that cishet white men devised that defines “intelligence” on the basis of culture. Sadly, there is a direct correlation between high IQ and “earning” a PhD in a STEM discipline, which is all too reflective of how white cishet men have designed disciplinary concepts to reinforce their own power structures.

It is fundamentally unfair and marginalizing for IQ tests and mathematics curriculum to be designed around the same white supremacist, cisheteronormative standards, thus marginalizing women of color. What we need isn’t just “fair hiring;” we need a radical reconceptualization of mathematics in a decolonizing framework.

holy shit

if math is too difficult then pick another subject

[–]Cwmcwm 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"What does equality look like?" She asked, then described inequity.

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