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Canadian men die earlier than women, and it’s not biological. What’s behind this deadly gap, and why doesn’t anyone seem to care?

reditters

March 30, 2017
65 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.macleans.ca/society/health/a-gender-gap-thats-a-matter-of-life-and-death/
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Title Canadian men die earlier than women, and it’s not biological. What’s behind this deadly gap, and why doesn’t anyone seem to care?
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reditters

Upvotes 65
Comments 22
Date March 30, 2017 11:55 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/62hsi3/canadian_men_die_earlier_than_women_and_its_not/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/canadian-men-die-earlier-than-women-and-its-not.927334
https://theredarchive.com/post/927334
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[–]Gorkildeathgod 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Try putting this in r/canada and it'll be deleted within 20 min...the mods are scared any everything that's CONTROVERSIAL even if it's not

[–]Badgerz92 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We should post the stories anyway. The mods aren't there 24/7, and in some subs it's just one mod that deletes these posts so unless that one mod is logged on the other mods will let it stay for a while.

[–]JebberJabber 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That sort of group obnoxiousness is why entire subs get auto-banned from some subs. We are already auto-banned from several subs.

[–]Badgerz92 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not saying brigade or spam them with irrelevant posts to push an agenda. But if a post actually belongs there, like this one does, then post it there.

[–]JebberJabber 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There isn't much of a link to Canada specifically though. It is a topic worth discussing widely, but somewhere else I reckon.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/62jiw8/gender_age_gap/

I did. It got removed.

[–]Gorkildeathgod 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Big surprise. I posted a video of Trudeau not answering questions. There was nothing controversial about it. But it got deleted. Asked why they said Trolling. Fought back they said "low level trolling." So in other words their sub has a narrative, pure wholesome garbage. Go off topic even slightly, come just a little too close to reality and bam..you're gone. Fucking hate the mods there....

[–]420weedscopes 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The mods there just hate men. They are very feminist and saying anything that is outside of the feminist narrative is grounds for your comment being deleted. They are child mods abusing their power to just push their narrative.

[–]JebberJabber 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guessed this post was removed without even having been to /Canada.
A glance at the sub headlines confirmed it.
Then I went and found it in the rules. They even gave mens vs womens' rights as an example!

"Posts which relate to Canada only in passing (e.g. mens rights vs womens rights arguments) will also likely be removed."

It is an conspiracy to keep the /Canada sub on the topic of Canada.

[–]SSapplejack 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you should try r/metacanada ! They're much more fair.

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we should execute women earlier to close the lifespan gap.

(if men lived longer, you know progressives would make this argument, only reversed)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nagging

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Canadian? Soooorry.

[–]Badgerz92 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and why doesn't anyone seem to care

Unfortunately that's an easy answer.

[–]Imnotmrabut 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Canadian men die earlier than women, and it’s not biological.

Citation Required On That Claim. But then again, why would a Male Feminist bother with basic realities!

The differences in Male and Female Immune systems which place men at higher risks of sepsis and cytokine-mediated death show the claim to be Bunkum and Opinion, not supported by fact.

numerous experimental and clinical studies indicate sex-specific differences in infectious diseases and sepsis.

Female gender has been demonstrated to be protective under such conditions, whereas male gender may be deleterious due to a diminished cell-mediated immune response and cardiovascular functions. Male sex hormones, i.e., androgens, have been shown to be suppressive on cell-mediated immune responses. In contrast, female sex hormones exhibit protective effects which may contribute to the natural advantages of females under septic conditions. Thus, the hormonal status has to be considered when treating septic patients.

Angele MK, Pratschke S, Hubbard WJ, Chaudry IH. Gender differences in sepsis: Cardiovascular and immunological aspects. Virulence. 2014;5(1):12-19. doi:10.4161/viru.26982.

The view expressed "men die earlier than women, and it’s not biological" is feminist Dogma and not Scientific Reality.

Peter Shawn Taylor, Ignorant and Scientifically Incompetent White Knight Economist should not be tolerated and should be called out!

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/HxYhc

[–]NeverVoteAgain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It can be argued that across all three major causes of men dying earlier than women—accidents, suicide and heart disease—men are wholly responsible for their own early graves: male life is cheap because that’s how they act. While such an attitude probably explains the overwhelming social indifference to the gender death gap, it doesn’t make it right.

Social indifference is great in all "gaps" where men are disadvantaged. So, no, that doesn't explain it.

EDIT: a bit more context: Education gap(s), work hours gap, incarceration gap, sentencing gap, duty gap (what are your legal responsibilities as a citizen), housing gap (the likelihood of getting a rental), suicide gap, homeless gap, health care gap (how much money is spend on gender-specific research and treatments), likability/threat stereotype gap (how likely you are treated friendly/ not-friendly), insurance gap (how likely it is to get an insurance and what it costs), violence gap (the likelihood of getting attacked violently), domestic violence initiation gap (the likelihood of getting drawn into a fight with your partner), happiness gap, social safety net gap (the likelihood of getting help when in trouble), divorce initiation gap, and many, many more.

But all we talk about are "women's gaps", the number of women in boards of listed companies, for example. It's almost funny but actually it's tragic. This can't go on but there is no real signs of it ending.

[–]LionelHutz4 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One interesting theory is that it is due to iron accumulation. It builds up as you age and has negative health consequences. Women don't have this problem due to menstruation. Post-menopausal women begin to 'catch up' to men in heart disease.

Regular blood donations just might be one of the best things a man can do for his health.

[–]suckmuckduck 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's the only way men can truly be free of women....

[–]JebberJabber 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

There are well known biological reasons for male sex to die younger. (Heart attacks and the effect of sex hormones on the immune system for a start).

There are well known psychological reasons for the male gender to die younger. Men are enormously more tolerant of risk, and more attracted to it. Men eat more meat and fat.

There isn't a clear line between biological sex and gender. E.g. I suspect risk tolerance and attraction might be affected strongly by sex hormones. Aggression certainly is.

[–]mikedeezy6679 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's because men aren't useful once they retire or cannot work

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