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Mum who dumped newborn baby in Wigan hospital toilets spared jail - BBC News

ukreview

February 13, 2017
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-38636384
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Title Mum who dumped newborn baby in Wigan hospital toilets spared jail - BBC News
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ukreview

Upvotes 33
Comments 10
Date February 13, 2017 6:40 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5tumru/mum_who_dumped_newborn_baby_in_wigan_hospital/
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Comments

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

disturbed by reason of not having fully recovered from the effects of giving birth

Does anyone know if this is in DSM-V or is it just a legal fantasy?

[–]Apexbreed 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure, but even if it, that's no excuse for that behavior. Do men who commit DV and child abuse get to hide behind mental illness?

[–]Tedesche 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a therapist, while it is technically possible for what the article describes to happen, I've never heard of it happening. Disassociation is not a terribly common response to anything but trauma, and if the woman was having it in response to pregnancy stress, I would expect her to have had seriously traumatic experiences in her past, in which a dissociative response was learned as a defense mechanism, and generalized to other stressors. Denial is also a very primitive defense, indicative of severe pathology that should be apparent in other areas of the patient's life.

However, it would seem that several clinicians testified as to the woman's psychiatric state, and a judge has to respect their expert opinion. It's possible she just shopped around until she found a psychiatrist gullible enough to buy her act, but then again, maybe she actually was quite sick. It's impossible to know without more information. The pathology described would be pretty rare to see, which makes me skeptical, but I also have to defer to the opinions of the clinicians that actually treated her.

[–]tio1w 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

legal fantasy?

The law accounts for this and gives the mother a lower sentence.

Most mothers that commit infanticide are never even prosecuted, let alone sentenced.

[–]JohnKimble111 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical biased BBC headline. No mention of trying to kill him.

[–]the_unseen_one 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Balogh (the mother) has had supervised contact with the child, which it is intended will continue"

Worse than her getting off with a hilariously pointless sentence is the fact that she will still get to see the child that she abandoned with the intent of murdering it. She left it in the garbage can like it was trash, and not a human infant. Even if the courts let her go because she was "disturbed" EVERYBODY should have stopped her from getting to see the kid again. I can not believe this shit.

[–]Iambecomethrowaway2 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she can drown a baby in a toilet, but if a man doesn't pay for his ex wife's shoes he gets jail.

equality!

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/hSAxT

[–]SeljD_SLO 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can someone create a list of British court f*k-ups?

[–]Machnow 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

life is cheap in England, always has been. Even cheaper when a woman takes a life..in fact, this case proves that life was worth nothing.

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