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Saw this REAL feminist on Facebook today.

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November 23, 2016

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Title	Saw this REAL feminist on Facebook today.
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	0
Comments	40
Date	November 23, 2016 12:23 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5eea62/saw_this_real_feminist_on_facebook_today/
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[–]iainmf 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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I'm not creating anything; I'm merely pointing out the reality of the situation. Your own perceptions are..."misguided", and do not align with reality.

However, let's take a look at this, shall we? It is impossible for a group who's stated aims are the advocacy of a subgroup to ALSO advocate for equality. The two purposes, while not necessarily being in direct opposition with each other, are nevertheless impossible to focus on at the same time.

Add in human nature, and it becomes ridiculous to contemplate.

If anyone were really interested in equality, they'd have to find a group who's specific purpose is equality. Humanists maybe? I dunno. But MRA/feminists aren't going to be it.

Seriously. Go look around here and the various feminists subreddits. You'll see plenty of examples of each group wanting to strip rights away from the other.

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[–]Alzael 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

What the others do is real feminism too. That's why the definition of feminism that you're quoting is reliant on entirely vague concepts.

the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men

This means absolutely nothing in any practical sense. Equality by this definition essentially is something that is entirely dependent upon the personal metrics of the individual measuring things. The ones that you consider "not real feminists" want equality too. They just want a different version of equality and to do it in a different manner.

This is why everytime you or any other feminist tries to repeat that definition you reveal yourselves to be liars and manipulating scumbags. Because you claim to fight for equality, but never actually tell people what that really means to you. Because there are many other propositions that go along with your feminism and inform your definition of "equality" which you should be telling the people that you expect to sign on to your way of thinking.

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How does history disagree exactly? How have women been equal to men up until recently? I'm pretty sure women didn't get choices in pretty much anything until the women's suffrage movement concluded with their right to vote. Also the downvote button isn't a disagree button, it's an off topic button, so I'm glad to see somebody is improperly using it.

Women have their inequalities still to this day while men have their share of inequalities that are important to address as well. We just have to realize that everybody is getting screwed where we should find a middle ground of equality.

Also women are going to lose a lot of rights with this new US government we have including the state by state cases defunding of planned parenthood and creating regulations that make being treated harder and harder for women.

Women have more power over custody over men, and men have more power over the fact that women's rights over their own body's aren't their own. So I feel like it's a pretty even playing field since Hillary didn't win the presidency.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure women didn't get choices in pretty much anything until the women's suffrage movement concluded with their right to vote

. 1919, That's when women gained the right to vote. It's been almost a hundred years.

Women have their inequalities still to this day

Name them. Go ahead, google that shit up. We'll wait.

Also women are going to lose a lot of rights with this new US government we have including the state by state cases defunding of planned parenthood and creating regulations that make being treated harder and harder for women.

Defunding planned parenthood doesn't equate to a lack of rights. Now, before you respond, I support abortion rights. Not that I believe abortion is acceptable, rather I don't trust the government with that determination. It's an individual right, period.

Women have more power over custody over men, and men have more power over the fact that women's rights over their own body's aren't their own. So I feel like it's a pretty even playing field since Hillary didn't win the presidency.

Oh. I see. You should have led with that. "I'm a whiny little bitch because Clinton lost". We'd all have known from the outset to ignore you then.

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Women have Republicans as a unified government. What that means is that women are at risk of their basic civil liberties of planned parenthood (which I believe is a woman's human right to have).

You mean abortion rights? That they currently have? So that's not an inequality, because they have it. If they lose it, then you'll have a point. I doubt it will happen though.

Secondly, women get paid less on average. I have done a lot of research on this because I was initially skeptical of the .77/ $. It's closer to <.90/$ but that's still a pay gap between the two genders on average because there's factors that aren't considered in the initial study which would lead to a range close to the one I gave. That's not equality.

Had you done just a little more research, you'd have discovered that men tend to work longer hours while women start taking time off in their 30s to start/raise a family. Correct for those variables and the gap largely vanishes.

Which is not to say there isn't a pay gap. In their 20s, women out earn men. I'd suspect this is largely down to the education gap, which is also a thing. Point being that the pay gap that always discussed is due to women's choices.

Got any others?

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[–]Alzael 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women have their inequalities still to this day while men have their share of inequalities that are important to address as well.

But your definition only includes fighting for one of those groups.

Also women are going to lose a lot of rights with this new US government we have including the state by state cases defunding of planned parenthood and creating regulations that make being treated harder and harder for women.

That's just being a fear-mongering retard.

and men have more power over the fact that women's rights over their own body's aren't their own.

No they don't. Women are the highest voting block, and they make up the largest percentage of pro-lifers. Trump was elected because he got the female vote.

You're using a simplistic measurement of more men in positions of power automatically must mean that more men have power. Without considering who gave those men that power and how that power is used.

Again, this is the difference in how one measures inequalities. You do it from the premise that women must necessarily be disadvantaged. Reasonable people don't, which is why even most women reject your sexist and bigoted ideas.

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