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World Economic Forum (the Davos people) say wage gap to last at least 170 years.

BDMR_lurker

October 27, 2016
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Title World Economic Forum (the Davos people) say wage gap to last at least 170 years.
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BDMR_lurker

Upvotes 7
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Date October 27, 2016 11:04 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/59ndgm/world_economic_forum_the_davos_people_say_wage/
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[–]EricAllonde 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists: "Women should be free to choose any type of work that they want to do. And they should be free to choose where to work, how many hours they want to work and even whether or not they want to work at all. Women should have complete freedom of choice about their work!"

Society: "OK, fair enough. Done."

Feminists: "Nooooo! Women are making the wrong choices. They're not doing what we told them to do. It's a disaster! Men, this is all your fault. Fix it right now!"

Fuck off.

[–]BDMR_lurker[S] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

These are worldwide figures, which will be used as-is by comparatively rich, Western women, obviously.

Interactive WEF report and PDF version.

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Edit: the PDF is quite a long read.

Interesting fact: the female/men ratios don't seem to go above 1.0. Educational achievement for the US is listed as 1.0, when I'd expect more of 1.5 (.6 / .4, for 60% of female graduates).

Overshooting equality is apparently not an issue.

The real ratio is quoted p. 356: 1.37 in tertiary education.

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Edit 2: as pointed out by /u/Bizneria, these are per-country measures of how worse (or how better, in the West) women have it, not measures of the overall quality of life.

To wit: Rwanda is 5th overall, the UK 20th, the US 45th.

I guess, even as a woman, I'd rather live in not Rwanda.

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Edit 3: some of the figures are just, well, suspicious.

I've scanned a dozen European countries, they all list a literacy rate above 97%, ususally 99%, for both men and women.

I know for a fact than in at least half of these, 10 to 15% are barely able to decipher the TV guide. What you'd call functionally illiterate. Zoolander "Can't Read Good"-level.

Apparently figures from a UNESCO report. Low standards.

[–]MightyBlubb 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I brushed through the Report this morning.

1 Does anyone know what "similar work" as in "Wage equality between women and men for similar work (survey data, normalized on a 0-to-1 scale)" WEF Global Gender Gap Report 2016, p.4, means? I can't find a definition anywhere. I searched the PDF, I searched for the sources given (although they are not exactly online, since they are survey answers, the reports based on them are) etc. I must be blind. In the end, the only "definition" I could find was on google from the United States Office of Personnel Management:

"How can positions with similar work be classified or graded differently?

We are sometimes asked why positions that seem to involve the same kind of work in different locations or organizations are classified differently. There are two reasons why positions that seem similar are classified differently:

Because the positions or jobs are actually different. While the tasks might seem to be similar, the complexity of the work, as well as the level of responsibility, authority, level of contacts, purpose of contacts, or other classification or job grading factor could be sufficiently different to justify a different classification or grading. The classification or job grading decision is made by agency officials who have the most information about the position or job in question. [...]"

Essentially - what everyone must have figured out the second they heard the term - similar work doesn't necessarily mean similar work. Wonder if this is true for the Gap Report? ;)

2 This one I find somewhat funny, as you said, they somehow stop at 1.0. This is their reasoning:

"Truncating the data at the equality benchmarks for each assigns the same score to a country that has reached parity between women and men and one where women have surpassed men.

The type of scale chosen determines whether the Index is rewarding women’s empowerment or gender equality.4 To capture gender equality, two possible scales were considered. One was a negative-positive scale capturing the size and direction of the gender gap. This scale penalizes either men’s advantage over women or women’s advantage over men, and gives the highest points to absolute equality. The second choice was a one-sided scale that measures how close women are to reaching parity with men, but does not reward or penalize countries for having a gender gap in the other direction. We find the one-sided scale more appropriate for our purposes, as it does not reward countries for having exceeded the parity benchmark. However, disparities in either direction are recorded in the Country Profiles." WEF Global Gender Gap Report 2016, p.6

Basically they openly admit that they do not care at all if men are off worse. Reason: It's more appropriate for their purposes. Yay. Which means this report is not about "Gender Gap" but should be more appropriately named "how women are oppressed - wait what do you mean there's another gender that could have gaps in different areas?"

3 Also great: "[...]the healthy life expectancy benchmark is set at 1.06." WEF Global Gender Gap Report 2016, p.6 Because who cares whether it's natural that women live longer or not - equality = women have longer lifes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's a well-known scam. The health equality in Russia is better than in Sweden, because in Sweden women have two healthy years more than men while in Russia its 12 years. It's the same as with feminists: trust nothing they say. In fact, they are in all likelihood feminists.

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Last year they calculated 118 years, this year they say 170. If they actually knew what they were talking about, they would not be sponging taxpayers money, they would be playing the stock market.

[–]BDMR_lurker[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, shifting goalpost...

[–]Rethgil 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An alternative headline would be "Unpopular wealthy bunch of people spout feminist rubbish in attempt to deflect hatred by courting stupid people".

[–]Rasalom72 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The wage gap will last as long as wages are being paid. In 170 years, western civilization will no longer exist, and we will no longer be paying anyone to do anything as we will not have currency.

Women will be breeding and raising children, and men will be rebuilding society from scratch after the end.

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